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elleng

(131,144 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:04 PM Aug 2015

Why Global Financial Markets Are Going Crazy.

Last week, global financial markets were churning, but it really only mattered if you were an oil trader, Chinese bureaucrat or hedge fund manager.

Now it’s starting to get scary for everyone.

An 8.5 percent drop in the Shanghai Composite index in Monday’s trading session spread to financial markets across the world. In the United States, the broad Standard & Poor’s 500 index was down 2.5 percent in Monday morning trading, after steeper declines in Asian and European stock markets, falling prices for oil and other commodities, and a rush of money into the safety of United States Treasury bonds.

What’s fascinating is that there is no clear, simple story about what is different about the outlook for interest rates; United States and European corporate profits; or economic growth compared with one week ago, when the S.&P. 500 index was 8 percent higher.

Here’s how to make sense of what is a truly global story, stretching from the streets of Shanghai, where stock investing has become a middle-class sport in recent years, to the oil fields of both the Middle East and Middle America, to the hallways of power in the Federal Reserve in Washington.

This Started in China, but Is a Lot Bigger Than China

The immediate trigger to the outburst of global volatility was China, where the sharp drop in stocks Monday continued a rout that has been underway — with periodic pauses thanks to government interventions — all summer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/upshot/why-global-financial-markets-are-going-crazy.html?

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Why Global Financial Markets Are Going Crazy. (Original Post) elleng Aug 2015 OP
China tried to corner the Frozen Orange Juice market thelordofhell Aug 2015 #1
The Duke Brothers! DebbieCDC Aug 2015 #2
One year's gains wiped out today...........n/t dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #11
Because it's not just someone else's hungry kids any more. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #3
That 1000 pt drop and then the lurch after? That was the 1% stealing profits newthinking Aug 2015 #4
This. /\ Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #5
I had my 401-k in a self directed fund dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #12
exactly... magical thyme Aug 2015 #7
Pre-market and afterhours trading isn't a 1% thing BadgerKid Aug 2015 #13
You might be surprised to know... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #10
" there is no clear, simple story about what is different" phantom power Aug 2015 #6
more financial crap NJCher Aug 2015 #8
Sorry, Cher, it WON'T end, elleng Aug 2015 #9
If there were no buyers, there'd be no sellers dickthegrouch Aug 2015 #14

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
4. That 1000 pt drop and then the lurch after? That was the 1% stealing profits
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:35 PM
Aug 2015

Big financial corps have had special trading status, where their trades go before the rest of us (our pensions etc).

This makes modern "crashes" very different than the big one in the 1930's. This time they can cut their losses at the expense of the 99%, or even make money off of those "corrections" with much less risk than other traders.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. I had my 401-k in a self directed fund
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 06:06 PM
Aug 2015

Got hit by the dot.com crash but after that moved it to safer funds as the 2008 bubble was looking to burst.
Problem is most people have their retirement in a "managed" fund, and have no control over what happens.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. exactly...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 04:09 PM
Aug 2015

The 1% get special, after hours and before hours trading privileges. The rest of us can only get caught in their stampede and crushed.

BadgerKid

(4,558 posts)
13. Pre-market and afterhours trading isn't a 1% thing
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:02 PM
Aug 2015

if that's what you refer to. What you may means is, as I've read it described, the market makers are able to trade "off to the side" since they see the orders come in, and if the trade suits them, they can partake.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
10. You might be surprised to know...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:28 PM
Aug 2015

that the "big financial corps" are the ones managing your pension and/or 401(k). If you think the manager of a Mutual Fund you hold in your 401(k) wasn't making trades early this morning if he felt he needed to, you would be mistaken.

The guy that is at the biggest disadvantage is the one trying to make educated trades at home, using E-Trade or similar. THAT'S who is behind the 8-ball in situations like this morning.

NJCher

(35,748 posts)
8. more financial crap
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 04:58 PM
Aug 2015

will it ever end?

Why can't they manage an economy so we don't have these ridiculous ups and downs?

I'm sick of this. Sick to death of this endless crap. We can do better.


Cher

elleng

(131,144 posts)
9. Sorry, Cher, it WON'T end,
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:04 PM
Aug 2015

we're in a worldwide economy now, exacerbating all the bad crap. There is no 'they' remotely able to manage it.

dickthegrouch

(3,184 posts)
14. If there were no buyers, there'd be no sellers
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:39 PM
Aug 2015

All those people short selling ARE the problem IMO.

Short selling should be bannedand anyone caught should have to make everyone they damage in the process whole again.

I'll vote for the presidential candidate who promises us that.

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