Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Tansy_Gold

(17,873 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:11 PM Dec 2015

STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Tuesday, 15 December 2015

[font size=3]STOCK MARKET WATCH, Tuesday, 15 December 2015[font color=black][/font]


SMW for 14 December 2015

AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 14 December 2015
[center][font color=green]
Dow Jones 17,368.50 +103.29 (0.60%)
S&P 500 2,021.94 +9.57 (0.48%)
Nasdaq 4,952.23 +18.76 (0.38%)


[font color=red]10 Year 2.22% +0.05 (2.30%)
30 Year 2.95% +0.05 (1.72%) [font color=black]


[center]
[/font]


[HR width=85%]



[font size=2]Market Conditions During Trading Hours[/font]
[center]
(click on link for latest updates)
Market Updates
[/center]



[font size=2]Euro, Yen, Loonie, Silver and Gold[center]

[/center]


[center]

[/center]


[HR width=95%]


[font color=black][font size=2]Handy Links - Market Data and News:[/font][/font]
[center]
Economic Calendar
Marketwatch Data
Bloomberg Economic News
Yahoo Finance
Google Finance
Bank Tracker
Credit Union Tracker
Daily Job Cuts
[/center]





[font color=black][font size=2]Handy Links - Essential Reading:[/font][/font]
[center]
Matt Taibi: Secret and Lies of the Bailout


[/center]



[font color=black][font size=2]Handy Links - Government Issues:[/font][/font]
[center]
LegitGov
Open Government
Earmark Database
USA spending.gov
[/center]




[div]
[font color=red]Partial List of Financial Sector Officials Convicted since 1/20/09 [/font][font color=red]
2/2/12 David Higgs and Salmaan Siddiqui, Credit Suisse, plead guilty to conspiracy involving valuation of MBS
3/6/12 Allen Stanford, former Caribbean billionaire and general schmuck, convicted on 13 of 14 counts in $2.2B Ponzi scheme, faces 20+ years in prison
6/4/12 Matthew Kluger, lawyer, sentenced to 12 years in prison, along with co-conspirator stock trader Garrett Bauer (9 years) and co-conspirator Kenneth Robinson (not yet sentenced) for 17 year insider trading scheme.
6/14/12 Allen Stanford sentenced to 110 years without parole.
6/15/12 Rajat Gupta, former Goldman Sachs director, found guilty of insider trading. Could face a decade in prison when sentenced later this year.
6/22/12 Timothy S. Durham, 49, former CEO of Fair Financial Company, convicted of one count conspiracy to commit wire and securities fraud, 10 counts of wire fraud, and one count of securities fraud.
6/22/12 James F. Cochran, 56, former chairman of the board of Fair, convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit wire and securities fraud, one count of securities fraud, and six counts of wire fraud.
6/22/12 Rick D. Snow, 48, former CFO of Fair, convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit wire and securities fraud, one count of securities fraud, and three counts of wire fraud.
7/13/12 Russell Wassendorf Sr., CEO of collapsed brokerage firm Peregrine Financial Group Inc. arrested and charged with lying to regulators after admitting to authorities he embezzled "millions of dollars" and forged bank statements for "nearly twenty years."
8/22/12 Doug Whitman, Whitman Capital LLC hedge fund founder, convicted of insider trading following a trial in which he spent more than two days on the stand telling jurors he was innocent
10/26/12 UPDATE: Former Goldman Sachs director Rajat Gupta sentenced to two years in federal prison. He will, of course, appeal. . .
11/20/12 Hedge fund manager Matthew Martoma charged with insider trading at SAC Capital Advisors, and prosecutors are looking at Martoma's boss, Steven Cohen, for possible involvement.
02/14/13 Gilbert Lopez, former chief accounting officer of Stanford Financial Group, and former controller Mark Kuhrt sentenced to 20 yrs in prison for their roles in Allen Sanford's $7.2 billion Ponzi scheme.
03/29/13 Michael Sternberg, portfolio mgr at SAC Capital, arrested in NYC, charged with conspiracy and securities fraud. Pled not guilty and freed on $3m bail.
04/04/13 Matthew Marshall Taylor,fmr Goldman Sachs trader arrested, charged by CFTC w/defrauding his employer on $8BN futures bet "by intentionally concealing the true huge size, as well as the risk and potential profits or losses associated."
04/04/13 Matthew Taylor admits guilt, makes plea bargain. Sentencing set for 26 June; faces up to 20 years in prison but will likely only see 3-4 years. Says, "I am truly sorry."
04/11/13 Ex-KPMG LLP partner Scott London charged by federal prosecutors w/passing inside tips to a friend in exchange for cash, jewelry, and concert tickets; expected to plead guilty in May.
08/01/13 Fabrice Tourré convicted on six counts of security fraud, including "aiding and abetting" his former employer, Goldman Sachs
08/14/13 Javier Martin-Artajo and Julien Grout charged with wire fraud, falsifying records, and conspiracy in connection with JP Morgan's "London Whale" trade.
08/19/13 Phillip A. Falcone, manager of hedge fund Harbinger Capital Partners, agrees to admit to "wrongdoing" in market manipulation. Will banned from securities industry for 5 years and pay $18MM in disgorgement and fines.
09/16/13 Javier Martin-Artajo and Julien Grout officially indicted on charges associated with "London Whale" trade.
02/06/14 Matthew Martoma convicted of insider trading while at hedge fund SAC (Stephen A. Cohen) Capital Advisors. Expected sentence 7-10 years.
03/24/14 Annette Bongiorno, Bernard Madoff's secretary; Daniel Bonventre, director of operations for investments; JoAnn Crupi, an account manager; and Jerome O'Hara and George Perez, both computer programmers convicted of conspiracy to defraud clients, securities fraud, and falsifying the books and records.
05/19/14 Credit Suisse, which has an investment bank branch in NYC, agrees to plead guilty and pay appx. $2.6 billion penalties for helping wealthy Americans hide wealth and avoid taxes.
09/08/14 Matthew Martoma, convicted SAC trader, sentenced to 9 years in prison plus forfeiture of $9.3 million, including home and bank accounts
08/03/15 Former City (London) trader Tom Hayes found guilty of rigging global Libor interest rates. Each fo eight counts carries up to 10 yr. sentence.
08/21/15 Charles Antonucci Sr, former pres. Park Ave. Bank sentenced to 2.5 years in prison for bribery, fraud, embezzlement, and attempt to steal $11MM in TARP bailout funds, as well as $37.5MM fraud on OK insurance company. To pay $54MM in restitution and give up additional $11MM.
09/21/15 Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn apologizes for VW cheating on air quality standards with emission testing avoidance device. Stock drops 20%, fines may total $18B.
09/22/15 Stewart Parnell, CEO Peanut Corp. of America, sentenced to 28 years in prison for selling salmonella-tainted peanut butter that killed nine.





[HR width=95%]


[center]


[font size=3][font color=red]This thread contains opinions and observations. Individuals may post their experiences, inferences and opinions on this thread. However, it should not be construed as advice. It is unethical (and probably illegal) for financial recommendations to be given here.[/font][/font][/font color=red][font color=black]


15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
1. So, DU came back on line hours ago
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:13 PM
Dec 2015

but my computer didn't know that...sigh. And my mother is still in limbo.

That kid in the cartoon won't be a scientist, he will be an accountant for a Ponzi scheme! Like the Federal budget proposal put forth by the GOP, or COP 21, or the equivalent.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
7. Accountant for a Ponzi scheme?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 01:16 AM
Dec 2015

You mean like a Congressman?

I'll believe anything you pay me to believe!

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
2. The Revolt of the Anxious Class ROBERT REICH
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:18 PM
Dec 2015
http://robertreich.org/post/135202830270

The great American middle class has become an anxious class – and it’s in revolt. Before I explain how that revolt is playing out, you need to understand the sources of the anxiety. Start with the fact that the middle class is shrinking, according to a new Pew survey. The odds of falling into poverty are frighteningly high, especially for the majority without college degrees. Two-thirds of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. Most could lose their jobs at any time. Many are part of a burgeoning “on-demand” workforce – employed as needed, paid whatever they can get whenever they can get it. Yet if they don’t keep up with rent or mortgage payments, or can’t pay for groceries or utilities, they’ll lose their footing.

The stress is taking a toll. For the first time in history, the lifespans of middle-class whites are dropping. According to research by the recent Nobel-prize winning economist, Angus Deaton, and his co-researcher Anne Case, middle-aged white men and women in the United States have been dying earlier. They’re poisoning themselves with drugs and alcohol, or committing suicide. The odds of being gunned down in America by a jihadist are far smaller than the odds of such self-inflicted deaths, but the recent tragedy in San Bernadino only heightens an overwhelming sense of arbitrariness and fragility.

The anxious class feels vulnerable to forces over which they have no control. Terrible things happen for no reason. Yet government can’t be counted on to protect them. Safety nets are full of holes. Most people who lose their jobs don’t even qualify for unemployment insurance. Government won’t protect their jobs from being outsourced to Asia or being taken by a worker here illegally. Government can’t even protect them from evil people with guns or bombs. Which is why the anxious class is arming itself, buying guns at a record rate. They view government as not so much incompetent as not giving a damn. It’s working for the big guys and fat cats – the crony capitalists who bankroll candidates and get special favors in return.

When I visited so-called “red” states this fall, I kept hearing angry complaints that government is run by Wall Street bankers who get bailed out after wreaking havoc on the economy, corporate titans who get cheap labor, and billionaires who get tax loopholes. Last year two highly-respected political scientists, Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page, took a close look at 1,799 policy decisions Congress made over the course of over twenty years, and who influenced those decisions. Their conclusion: “The preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

It was only a matter of time before the anxious class would revolt. They’d support a strongman who’d promise to protect them from all the chaos. Who’d save jobs from being shipped abroad, slam Wall Street, stick it to China, get rid of people here illegally, and block terrorists from getting into America. A strongman who’d make America great again – which really means make average working people safe again.

It was a pipe dream, of course – a conjurer’s trick. No single person can do this. The world is far too complex. You can’t build a wall along the Mexican border. You can’t keep out all Muslims. You can’t stop corporations from outsourcing abroad. Nor should you even try. Besides, we live in a messy democracy, not a dictatorship.

Still, they think maybe he’s smart enough and tough enough to pull it off. He’s rich. He tells it like it is. He makes every issue a test of personal strength. He calls himself strong and his adversaries weak. So what if he’s crude and rude? Maybe that’s what it takes to protect average people in this cruelly precarious world.

For years I’ve heard the rumbles of the anxious class. I’ve listened to their growing anger – in union halls and bars, in coal mines and beauty parlors, on the Main Streets and byways of the washed-out backwaters of America. I’ve heard their complaints and cynicism, their conspiracy theories and their outrage. Most are good people, not bigots or racists. They work hard and they have a strong sense of fairness. But their world has been slowly coming apart. And they’re scared and fed up.

Now someone comes along who’s even more of a bully than those who for years have bullied them economically, politically, and even violently. The attraction is understandable, even though misguided. If not Donald Trump, then it will be someone else posing as a strongman. If not this election cycle, it will be the next one.

The revolt of the anxious class has just begun.
 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
3. IMF Policy Change Pushes Ukraine, Russia to Resolve Bond Dispute
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:36 PM
Dec 2015
Highly unlikely, but if you say so...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-10/imf-policy-change-pushes-ukraine-russia-to-resolve-bond-dispute

Ukraine will need to negotiate in "good faith" with Russia over a $3 billion bond due this month if it wants to continue receiving a loan from the International Monetary Fund under a policy change the institution laid out this week. The IMF’s executive board approved a policy change on Dec. 8 that will allow lending to countries that default on debts to sovereign creditors. The change clears the way for the Washington-based fund to continue lending to Ukraine if it fails to repay a $3 billion bond Russia bought from the government of former Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovych in 2013. But under the new policy, the debtor country will be expected to make "good-faith efforts" to restructure the debt, according to an IMF policy paper released Thursday that lays out the details of the shift. This may mean Ukraine will have to overcome its frosty relations with Russia to try to reach a bilateral agreement over the debt.

The new policy also pushes Russia to the negotiating table, by trying to prevent IMF loan programs from being held up by "holdout" creditors. Sovereign lenders would be expected to accept offers consistent with the IMF’s assessment of a borrower’s debt sustainability and financing needs. Until now, Ukraine has asked Russia to accept restructuring terms agreed to by its commercial creditors in October, a proposal the government in Moscow has refused.

"Generally, we want debts to be paid on time," IMF General Counsel Sean Hagan told reporters on a conference call Thursday, in which fund officials declined to comment on the Ukraine-Russia dispute. "We want to try to avoid arrears."

The new policy sets a number of conditions on the fund’s ability to lend into arrears, including that prompt IMF support be "essential" and the borrower be pursuing "appropriate" policies. It also requires that lending into arrears not jeopardize the IMF’s ability to execute other bailouts. The decision to lend into arrears will be made by the IMF’s 24-member executive board, which represents the fund’s 188 member nations. In weighing whether a debtor is acting in good faith, the board will look for evidence the country has approached its official creditor, either bilaterally or through a group of official creditors, and has offered to engage in "substantive" dialogue, among other things. Specifically, the IMF said in the paper that the debtor "should be willing to engage with official creditors independently from private creditors." That may present difficulties for Ukraine, which has urged Russia to accept the deal it offered private creditors. Even with the policy change, other hurdles remain for Ukraine to obtain additional disbursements of the IMF bailout loan soon. Local wrangling over taxes has reduced the chances that any more payouts will occur this year.

The IMF changed its arrears policy in 1989 to allow countries borrowing from the fund to continue receiving loan installments even if they miss payments to commercial creditors. But the fund’s executive board left in place its policy of not tolerating official arrears, despite a recommendation by staff that exceptions be allowed.
 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
4. Never Mind $35, The World's Cheapest Oil Is Already Close to $20
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:39 PM
Dec 2015
and yet, gas prices are higher this week...for Hannukah, perhaps?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-14/never-mind-35-the-world-s-cheapest-oil-is-already-close-to-20

As oil crashed through $35 a barrel in New York, some producers were already living with the reality of much lower prices.

A mix of Mexican crudes is already valued at less than $28, an 11-year low, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Iraq is offering its heaviest variety of oil to buyers in Asia for about $25. In western Canada, some producers are selling for less than $22 a barrel.

“More than one-third of the global oil production is not economical at these prices,” Ehsan Ul-Haq, senior consultant at KBC Advanced Technologies Plc, said by e-mail. “Canadian oil producers could have difficulty in covering their operational costs.”





more
 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
5. Weekend Follow-Up: Feds are in town to save Rahm, not to bury him
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:50 PM
Dec 2015
http://michaelklonsky.blogspot.com/2015/12/feds-are-in-town-to-save-rahm-not-to.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mikeklonsky+%28SmallTalk%29

"The Department of Justice is coming in," Emanuel said. "We welcome it, accept it and need it. It's in our self-interests as a city." -- Tribune


Boy, that was easy. Three days earlier, Rahm had made clear that he didn't didn't want no stink'n feds sticking their noses into his business. Now he's breathing a sigh of relief that Lynch has promised "not focus on individuals" but rather to "improve the system."

Rahm had no choice but to face reality after a come-to-Jesus meeting with party and White House heavies. His approval rating is now at an all-time low of 18%. To put that in perspective, that's lower than the 20% Gov. Rauner, the most hated pol in Chicago, polled last fall. As I recall, Mayor Daley was down to 31% in 2010, when he declared his intention not to seek a seventh term, clearing the way for Emanuel to take over.

Yes, Obama's cavalry is coming in to supposedly clean-up Rahm's racist and corrupt police department. The FBI has already been in town for months, trying to clean-up Rahm's no-bid-contract scandal at CPS. When is the last time you heard mention in the media about that? It appears that the best way to take a scandal off the front pages is to have the feds investigate it.

Neither the police department nor the school system are entities unto themselves. As the Tribune's John Kass notes:

And the government of Chicago, for generations — as Obama and Rahm and the Clintons know all too well — is the Boss on Five. The mayor controls the police budget, decides who gets promoted and where resources are directed. The mayor picks the superintendent and the top cops, brokers the appointment of district commanders.


But the real purpose of this latest investigation, made clear by A.G. Loretta Lynch herself, is to save the system -- not to bury it. To "rebuild trust" and head off seemingly inevitable "civil unrest". There's little mention of "justice" coming from the Justice Dept. But sooner or later, all roads will lead to Rome Rahm. Thus, the growing pressure on him to resign before that happens.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
6. Plunging Commodities Interfere With The New World Order
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:56 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/12/plunging-commodities-interfere-with-the-new-world-order/

Anglo American, a British company, and one of the world’s biggest miners, and a ‘producer’ (actually just a miner, how did those two terms ever get mixed up?!) of platinum (world no. 1), diamonds, copper, nickel, iron ore and coal, said today it would scrap dividends AND fire 85,000 of it 135,000 global workforce (that’s 63%!). Anglo is just the first in a long litany line we’ll see going forward. Commodities ‘producers’ are being completely wiped out, hammered, killed, murdered. They’ve been able to hedge their downside risks so far, but now find they can’t even afford the price of the hedges (insurance) anymore. And then there’s all the banks and funds that financed them.

And they’ve all been gearing up for production increases too, with grandiose plans and -leveraged- investments aiming for infinity and beyond. You know, it’s the business model. 2016 will be a year for the record books.

Just check this Bloomberg graph for copper supply and demand as an example. How ugly would you like it today?



And what’s true for copper goes for the whole range of raw materials. Because China went from double-digit growth to shrinking imports and exports in pretty much no time flat. And China was all they had left.

Iron ore is dropping below $40, and that’s about the break-even point. Of course, oil has done that quite a while ago already. It’s just that we like to think oil’s some kind of stand-alone freak incident. It is not. With oil today plunging below $37 (down some 15% since the OPEC meeting last week), it doesn’t matter anymore how much more efficient shale companies can get. They’re toast. They’re done. And with them are their lenders. Who have hedged their bets too, obviously, but hedging has a price. Or else you could throw money at any losing enterprise.

But there’s another side to this, one that not a soul talks about, and it has Washington, London and Brussels very worried. Here goes:


    These large mining -including oil- corporations most often operate in regions in the world that are remote and located in countries with at best questionable governments (the corporations like it like that, it’s how they know who to bribe to be able to rape and pillage).

    The corporations de facto form a large part of the US/UK/EU political/military control system of these areas. They work in tandem with the CIA, MI5, the US and UK military, to keep the areas ‘friendly’ to western industries and regime.

    This has caused unimaginable misery across the globe, in for instance (a good example) the Congo, one of the world’s richest regions when it comes to minerals ‘we’ want, but one of the poorest areas on the planet. No coincidence there.


Untold millions have died as a result. ‘We’ have done a lot more damage there than we are presently doing in Syria, if you can imagine. And many more millions are forced to live out their lives in miserable circumstances on top of the world’s richest riches. But that will now change. Thing is, with the major miners going belly up, ‘our’ control of these places will also fade. Because it’s all been about money all along, and the US won’t be able to afford the -political and military- control of these places if there are no profits to be made.

They’ll be sinkholes for military budgets, and those will be stretched already ‘protecting’ other places. The demise of commodities is a harbinger of a dramatically changing US position in the world. Washington will be forced to focus on protecting it own soil, and move away from expansionist policies. Because it can’t afford those without the grotesque profits its corporations have squeezed out of the populations in these ‘forgotten’ lands. That’s going to change global politics a lot.

And it’s not as if China will step in. They can’t afford to take over a losing proposition; the Chinese economy is not only growing at a slower pace, it may well be actually shrinking. Beijing’s new reality is that imports and exports both are falling quite considerably (no matter the ‘official’ numbers), and the cost of a huge expansion into global mining territory makes little sense right now.

With the yuan now part of the IMF ‘basket‘m Beijing can no longer print at will. China must focus on what happens at home. So must the US. They have no choice. Other than going to war. And, granted, given that choice, they all probably will. But the mining companies will still be mere shells of their former selves by then. There’s no profit left to be made. This is not going to end well. Not for anybody. Other than the arms lobby. What it will do is change geopolitics forever, and a lot.

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
8. 8"of snow here in Denver and still falling hard.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:28 AM
Dec 2015

All schools are closed, roads are deep in snow and visibility at about a hundred yards.

"I don't need to clean my windows. I don't need no snow tires."

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
12. Well, it's not 60F today (like it was for over 24 hours earlier in the week)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:27 PM
Dec 2015

some drizzle, lots of gray and windy. It looked like snow today, but they are saying Friday.

Guess we won't have daffodils for Xmas.

I'm getting new doors, all tightly sealed against infiltration, though! With glass to let some light into my cave. It would have been better if the carpenter had come by when it was 60F, though.

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
9. A Mansion, a Shell Company and Resentment in Bel Air
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:31 AM
Dec 2015

Rich people getting pissed at rich people.

LOS ANGELES — The most notorious new house in Los Angeles hangs from a Bel Air hillside, high above the sprawl and smog, unfinished and unloved.Outraged neighbors call it “the Starship Enterprise,” and in truth it looks like nothing so much as an earthbound space station of curved glass and steel, draped in scaffolding and tarpaulin, roughly 30,000 square feet and nearly 70 feet high.

That height, roughly twice the legal limit, is among a litany of violations that have stalled construction at 901 Strada Vecchia for more than a year. Without the city’s permission, workers tore down the original house and leveled the hillside. Though the site is in an “earthquake-induced landslide area,” subsequent inspections found “unsecured open excavations” and other perils. Inspectors also uncovered a host of features, unapproved though befitting a house with an aspirational price tag of $100 million, among them underground bedrooms and an IMAX theater.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/a-mansion-a-shell-company-and-resentment-in-bel-air/ar-BBnym3U?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
10. This sucks. In Flint, Mich., there’s so much lead in children’s blood they’ve declared a
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:27 AM
Dec 2015

state of emergency .

For months, worried parents in Flint, Mich., arrived at their pediatricians’ offices in droves. Holding a toddler by the hand or an infant in their arms, they all have the same question: Are their children being poisoned?

To find out, all it takes is a prick of the finger, a small letting of blood. But if the tests come back positive, the potentially severe consequences are far more difficult to discern.

That’s how lead works. It leaves its mark quietly, with a virtually invisible trail. But years later, when a child shows signs of a learning disability or behavioral issues, lead’s prior presence in the bloodstream suddenly becomes inescapable.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-flint-mich-there%e2%80%99s-so-much-lead-in-children%e2%80%99s-blood-they%e2%80%99ve-declared-a-state-of-emergency/ar-BBnzEbx?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

Punx

(446 posts)
11. Not Cool
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:42 PM
Dec 2015

And higher levels of lead in the blood have been tied to a higher propensity for violent actions and criminal behavior.

But then I read the article and it’s outrageous. A classic example of how the poor and middle class have to pay the price to make someone at the top rich.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
13. I hope the governor fries
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:31 PM
Dec 2015

He deserves to. He's all gungho on putting in Emergency Managers who do crimes like this, when a city is in financial distress.

Punx

(446 posts)
14. Agreed
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:01 PM
Dec 2015

I hear he is thinking of running for Senate. Hopefully this will kill that and any future Presidential ambitions, not that the media will bring it up.

And so f**n hypocritical; they want to criminalize abortion, or jail someone that smokes pot when pregnant (not something I recommend or support during pregnancy), but hey if some lead or other toxins from the water gets into a pregnant woman, or young children and into the way of their corporate or gutting government agendas, then “Crickets”.

I’m betting there’s a racial component here as well

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
15. Of course there is! The Michigan GOP is all racist, all the time, and always has been
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:50 PM
Dec 2015

Only cities occupied by the black people get shafted in Michigan. Every single one of them.

I was incredulous that Ben Carson came here to campaign. He was born in Detroit. He knows the score, unless he's so mentally addled as to have forgotten, or maybe he thinks black people will put him in the White House. The same mental illness that makes Hillary think that women will put her in the White House, just because of a superficial commonality.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Economy»STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Tue...