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Harley-Davidson's Slow Decline Is Getting Hard To Watch
Erik Shilling
Yesterday 9:00PM Filed to: HARLEY-DAVIDSON
Harley knows what its future looks like with, perhaps by as soon as next year, more sales internationally than in the U.S., the continuation of a long-term trend. Its desperately trying to prop up U.S. sales, but the LiveWire hasnt been selling great, and its core demo is aging out. Revenue numbers for 2019 released today were also a lot worse than expected.
Lets go to Reuters first off for some of the numbers:
Motorcycle revenue fell an annual 8.5% to $874.1 million in the December quarter, faster than a 3.4% fall predicted by analysts in a Refinitiv survey.
Its shares, after falling as much as 7%, pared losses to trade 2.5% lower at $33.96 on Tuesday afternoon.
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Its bike sales in America last year were the lowest in at least 16 years. Falling sales in the past 12 quarters have forced the company to tighten the supply of its bikes to prevent price discount pressure and protect profit.
In 2019, the shipment volume of its bikes in the United States was the lowest in at least two decades. Global shipments were the lowest since 2010.
In a reflection of the demographic headwind, the motorcycle makers stock price has declined by 44% in the past five years. By comparison, the S&P 500 Index .SPX has gained 63%.
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Per the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
These are declines on top of declines on top of declines. Years of declines, said analyst Brian Yarbrough with Edward Jones Co. If we hit a recession in the next two years, then all of their (sales) targets are off the table. There is no way they are going to hit those targets then.
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lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)of most of their core demograhic.
Not to mention that the mid life crisis boomers are now old boomers
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)no longer available in big numbers. Millennial's are not Harley Customers. The thought of a 32k hunk of Iron sitting in the Garage does not compute. And if the weather sucks,it just sits there collecting dust and costing mega bucks to insure.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Rode it 30,000 miles and sold it in '80 for $4200.
Now a similar model costs $30k? That's crazy.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)Harleys biggest problem: the young people coming into motorcycle age today dont like the motorcycles they make.
Forget the theyre too expensive argument. They are, but thats not the issue. Millennials are finding the money for Teslas, which are far more expensive than Harleys.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)they are far too noisy. Perhaps once electric motorcycles that are quiet become the norm...
But I doubt that they will last that long.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)However...Ive seen these three patches:
Harleys dont vibrate, they throb.
Harleys dont leak oil, they mark their spot.
Harleys dont lose parts, they leave a trail so you can find your way home.
Your average first-time motorcycle buyer will look at these three signs and think, you really want me to spend that much money on a bike that shakes, leaks oil and falls apart?
Sonny Barger put it best: The stupidest thing the Hells Angels ever did was staying with Harley after the big Japanese motorcycles came out. Harley is not a quality motorcycle.
MorePrepared
(3 posts)good post