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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 11:19 AM Aug 2016

Ken Burns or Instructors?

August 22, 2016
By
Scott Jaschik
U.S. Senator Ron Johnson (at right), a Wisconsin Republican in a tough re-election battle against Democrat Russ Feingold, used an appearance on Thursday to say the "higher education cartel" is raising prices and preventing reforms that would help college students learn at affordable prices.

He criticized accreditors and tenured professors for blocking reforms. He said that he favored "certification," in which people could demonstrate competency or skills in certain areas through testing rather than earning degrees. (The University of Wisconsin is a leader in competency-based education, in which students earn degrees sometimes in ways similar to the path Johnson suggested.)
Johnson also said the education system could become much more affordable by changing the role of instruction.

"We’ve got the internet -- you have so much information available. Why do you have to keep paying different lecturers to teach the same course? You get one solid lecturer and put it up online and have everybody available to that knowledge for a whole lot cheaper? But that doesn’t play very well to tenured professors in the higher education cartel. So again, we need destructive technology for our higher education system," he said.

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Ken Burns or Instructors? (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2016 OP
To hell with this blowhard, Ron Johnson. Hope Feingold smokes his ass. Ken Burns and the internets zonkers Aug 2016 #1
For crying out loud ladym55 Aug 2016 #2
Yep! They also desire more low-information voters, so they naturally... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #3
They come close ladym55 Aug 2016 #4
I majored in math and physics, but I'm very thankful... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #5
Republicans plan to educate more people ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2016 #6
We have to get rid of this guy. AllyCat Aug 2016 #7
 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
1. To hell with this blowhard, Ron Johnson. Hope Feingold smokes his ass. Ken Burns and the internets
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 11:30 AM
Aug 2016

are no substitute for legitimate scholarship.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
2. For crying out loud
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

Higher ed is so expensive because overpaid administration has grown out of control. There are vice presidents, assistant vice presidents, associate vice presidents, and assistants to the associates--all making 6-figure salaries. Cuts at universities are coming from faculty ranks as more and more and more instruction is being handed to adjunct faculty who make peanuts for each course they teach.

I have had it with Rethuglican bull puckey about higher ed costs. THEY are the ones making all the money from higher ed--not the people who are actually doing the instructing.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
3. Yep! They also desire more low-information voters, so they naturally...
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 11:53 AM
Aug 2016

... dislike people being better educated on various issues.

I'm surprised that I haven't heard Republicans argue that colleges should only exist to provide business degrees.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
4. They come close
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 11:57 AM
Aug 2016

They talk about training for careers and building entrepreneurs. Too many universities are starving their liberal arts programs for things they consider more "practical." Too bad a liberal arts background is excellent preparation for all sorts of career options because that produces people who can think. I do realize that Republicans are made very uncomfortable by that concept, however.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
5. I majored in math and physics, but I'm very thankful...
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Aug 2016

... that my school required all kinds of "general education" coursework which included liberal arts.

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
6. Republicans plan to educate more people ...
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:58 PM
Aug 2016

by lowering the standards of what it means to be "educated". Just keep lowering that bar, and soon most of your population is "educated" but doesn't know much of anything -- certainly not enough to cause trouble for their corporate masters.

AllyCat

(16,184 posts)
7. We have to get rid of this guy.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:34 PM
Aug 2016

I don't want to learn the nuances of a field of study from an industry hack.

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