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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:12 AM Jun 2017

AZ Republican:Teachers get second jobs to buy boats, enjoy finer things in life

Teachers in Arizona are getting second jobs not because they’re struggling to survive on their low pay, but because they want to enjoy the finer things in life, like boats, according to House Majority Leader John Allen.

“They’re making it out as if anybody who has a second job is struggling. That’s not why many people take a second job,” Allen said. “They want to increase their lifestyles. They want to improve themselves. They want to pay for a boat. They want a bigger house. They work hard to provide themselves with a better lifestyle. Not everyone who takes a second job does it because they’re borderline poverty.”

Allen, a Scottsdale Republican, made the remark as an explanation for the controversial comments he made during a vote Tuesday on a bill to allow more people without formal teacher training to teach at K-12 schools. The bill, SB1042, passed the House and is awaiting Gov. Doug Ducey’s signature.

During the vote, Allen said the fact that some teachers have to hold a second job to make ends meet doesn’t mean lawmakers don’t care about them. Instead, it shows teachers are enterprising Americans, like many lawmakers, he said.

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http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/04/27/house-republican-leader-teachers-get-second-jobs-to-buy-boats-enjoy-finer-things-in-life/

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AZ Republican:Teachers get second jobs to buy boats, enjoy finer things in life (Original Post) n2doc Jun 2017 OP
Education is done, over. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #1
Okay. I'm sure that there are people who take second jobs PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2017 #2
Exactly. Republicans are elitist morons Warpy Jun 2017 #3
Why sholdn't teachers have "the finer things in life" Merlot Jun 2017 #4
Google proves this jerk is lying - Arizona is near the bottom in teacher pay. procon Jun 2017 #5
Did he bring up all those happily teaching nuns and their oath of poverty? Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #6
Alt realty working OT in AZ lunasun Jun 2017 #7
I work in AZ schools ThoughtCriminal Jun 2017 #8

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Education is done, over.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jun 2017

America done, over.

Because a woman owned a private server.

SHAME on ALL of us.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
2. Okay. I'm sure that there are people who take second jobs
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jun 2017

to afford those finer things. But if you're working two jobs then when in the world would you have time to go out on that boat?

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
3. Exactly. Republicans are elitist morons
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jun 2017

And considering that the definition of a boat is "a hole in the water surrounded by wood or fiberglass into which you pour money" means that you can never quit that second job.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
4. Why sholdn't teachers have "the finer things in life"
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jun 2017

on their salary as it stands without the second job?

Teachers work hard and have an important job. They deserve better pay, not second jobs.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. Google proves this jerk is lying - Arizona is near the bottom in teacher pay.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jun 2017

OK, he's a Republican, and if his mouth is moving he's lying, it comes with the job.

Arizona ranks 40th in starting pay for teachers at just $31,874, compared to New Jersey, the state at the top with $48,631. Huge difference!

Forget the boats you self serving ass, teachers love what they do, but those 2nd jobs are necessary just to afford a place to live, and pay for some of those "finer things in life" like food, water and electricity.

Adding that ALL the lowest paying states are... ready? Republican!

http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
6. Did he bring up all those happily teaching nuns and their oath of poverty?
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jun 2017

That is usually where their arguments head. You see teaching is a thankless profession that should only be done by women that will be provided for by God and the Church. The Bible, er men in power that abhor education for the commoners, love to tout the nuns, and their idealistic vision of how wonderfully cheap school was in the good ole days, before teachers got all uppity.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
8. I work in AZ schools
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jun 2017

I.T. Administration - not teaching. But I get a pretty objective view of how teachers are treated in this state and how they live.

The AZ GOP views public educators with slightly less contempt than they might hold for an ISIS executioner. Public education is a major budget item that gets in the way of not just cutting taxes for the rich, but eliminating them. And worse, public schools are not allowed to be used to fundamentalist religious indoctrination. Don't get me started on the private charter scam schools in this state - that's a long topic.

No, our teachers are not doing that well and MANY of the best are leaving for states where they are not treated like scum. SB 1042 is desperation to fill positions with people who have no teaching skills and Sen Allen has no clue about what it takes to handle a room full of students at any level.

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