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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:01 AM Dec 2014

anybody here teach phonological awareness?

I have a young adult student who has never learned to read;
he went to a school for "special education" and was taught to read using the sight method.
so he can read about 10% of any passage.

Today I'm going to the library to see if they have any graphic novels.(for adults)

I'm interested in any other teaching aids people have found.

thanks.

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anybody here teach phonological awareness? (Original Post) ellenrr Dec 2014 OP
Go back to basics kimbutgar Dec 2014 #1
That's phonics. Igel Dec 2014 #3
A phoneme is the smallest unit roody Dec 2014 #2
And it is emergent. Igel Dec 2014 #4
Much appreciate your detailed reply Igel. However, when you say, ellenrr Dec 2014 #6
ps: another idea upon re-reading your post ellenrr Dec 2014 #7
Yes! And the more interesting the text, roody Dec 2014 #9
PSS, :) when you say PA is emergent ellenrr Dec 2014 #8
I like to use music to teach reading. roody Dec 2014 #5
My mom specifically taught me phonics when I was 4 eridani Jan 2015 #10
yes, we have to do that (memorize some). As they say, all the rules of English spelling ellenrr Jan 2015 #11

kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
1. Go back to basics
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:01 PM
Dec 2014

Teach the sounds of the letters. Then easy sight words, rhyming patterns. Doctor Seuss books are great books to start with. Go dog go, hop on pop etc.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
4. And it is emergent.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:18 PM
Dec 2014

That's the problem.

You can't teach phonemic awareness. A metastudy done by Krashen not many years back looked at over 300 research articles showing the results of teaching PA. The articles were mostly supportive, if not glowing in support, for teaching PA.

And they sucked so badly that after throwing them out for unconscionably miniscule sample sizes, archaic and obsolete linguistics, lack of controls and self-willed ignoring of confounds and feedbacks, two were left standing that would be acceptable as a graduate student linguistics paper. Most would be failed as an undergrad paper. One looked at American English and the other at Israeli Hebrew, IIRC. One of the papers found a slight negative effect from teaching phonemic awareness. One found a slight positive effect. Yes, 2 out of 300+ peer-reviewed published articles in education would pass muster. Less than 1%.

Most of the metholodogical errors included an obvious confound: The goal was to teach phonemic awareness (PA), the method was to teach phonics, the data collection was testing phonics, and the conclusions supported PA. As though phonics (which involves graphemes and mapping graphemes to phonemes or phones) was the same thing as developing phonemes (which are abstract mental representations). Note that for most of humanity's existence humans had, one expects, phonemic awareness. And most people lacked the ability to read. In fact, you can read just fine using non-phoneme-based writing systems.

The archaic linguistics looked entirely at phonemes as abstract units in complementary distribution, usually including confusing phonemes and graphemes. By the late '90s the complementary distribution business was clearly a crock as psycholinguistics and token-based phonology had their influences. The phoneme/grapheme issue was cleared up rather well by the 1920s. Graphemes =/= phonemes =/= phones. Linguistics 1.

The brain has to build phonemic awareness, but does so as a result of hearing a sufficiently large number of words a sufficiently large number of times. It needs to hear those phonemes over and over to specify their range of realization and recognize alternative realizations. And it only can do that hearing a sufficiently large number of tokens of each word, and a sufficiently large number of words. It does this automatically--it was unclear as of perhaps 4, 5 years ago that this could ever be directly taught in a way that affects the automatic parallel processing of language that actually occurs. Phonematicity emerges naturally from the distinctions that the brain is forced to make between separate words and how they match different meanings.

In fact, phonemic awareness, like morphological awareness, is a moving target. Phonemic targets can evolve over a person's lifetime, for instance. Some phonemes are "acquired" earlier than others and obviously that means some are acquired later. Bybee's token-based phonology was crucial in this.

Problem is, a lot of disadvantaged kids have a linguistic deficit (regrets to Labov). Not enough verbal input at home, either in number of different lexemes or the number of times they hear them all. Instead they hear a small set of words frequently, and hear fewer hours of speech on top of that. To "teach" phonemic awareness, a good program exposes kids to a larger vocabulary and makes sure they hear these words, properly used in context and in meaningful utterances, enough times.

A lot of PA programs teach phonics. Accidentally, along the way, a large number of disadvantaged kids are exposed to a sufficiently large vocabulary, repeated in context a sufficient number of times, to have those who want to believe in PA teaching have their bias confirmed. Unfortunately, by the time that happens some kids have already learned that they're failures at reading.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
6. Much appreciate your detailed reply Igel. However, when you say,
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:57 PM
Dec 2014

"The brain has to build phonemic awareness, but does so as a result of hearing a sufficiently large number of words a sufficiently large number of times."

that may happen with most of us, but it hasn't happened with my student.

(He has a diagnosis of 'special education' - I don't know the details.)

He is 23 years old - the words that he knows aurally, he has heard probably thousands of times, he comes from a high-middle-income family which talks a lot, watches educational TV, talks among themselves, etc.

So just hearing these words has not translated into being able to read them.

He has a great vocabulary, he is very smart, most of the words that he cannot read, he knows them once he hears them.

So I have to teach him to be able to sound a word in his head - when he is reading - so that he will recognize the word in print. Once he can "hear" the word he is reading, he can recognize it.
At least that is my theory.
If you have another approach I'd love to hear it.

This is what I do:
eg
cognition.
I break it into cog-ni-tion.

do this enough times, he sees "tion" and knows it sounds like shun,
since we've done many "tion" words. same for the other 2 syllables.

Even when knowing each syllable , sometimes putting all 3 sounds together is difficult for him.

If there is another way to teach him to read, besides teaching him to sound the word out - I am all ears.

thanks!




ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
7. ps: another idea upon re-reading your post
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:01 PM
Dec 2014

perhaps if I read aloud to him while he follows along?

roody

(10,849 posts)
5. I like to use music to teach reading.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:20 PM
Dec 2014

Once a song is known, the kids can match the written word to what they know.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
10. My mom specifically taught me phonics when I was 4
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 02:52 AM
Jan 2015

The thing that I noticed was that sounding words out made sense for 80-90% of words, and no sense at all for the rest. I self-adopted see and say for those words that didn't fit the rules and just memorized them.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
11. yes, we have to do that (memorize some). As they say, all the rules of English spelling
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 03:05 AM
Jan 2015

like "i after e except after C" -
or however that goes -
end up being broken.

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