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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Sun May 15, 2016, 02:35 PM May 2016

Grieving in Silence, Grieving Out Loud.

These two blogs perfectly encapsulate my response to recognizing the inevitability and imminence of social collapse. Silent, isolated grief is insupportable. Shared, public grief is part of the web that weaves the caring and aware into a global community, and makes us able to embrace the suffering, together.

Grieving in Silence

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Lately I have begun to relate more to Edvard Munch’s iconic painting “The Scream.” It seems to me to be the perfect emblem of our times, an anthem of despair silenced by the absurdity of the status quo. I realize that many of us feel this deep sense of sorrowful terror; but many more can do little more than cry out in that private, interior space that our culture has consigned us to.

“What is the meaning of life?” has become the crux of jokes. We are chided or ridiculed for thinking too much and sent to a cubicle to perform as a useful cog in the machine of industry; and then to another cubicle to shop for items we are told we need or that will “enhance” our lives, and then to a cubicle that we are charged money to live in and sit in front of yet another cubicle that tells us what to think, how to feel, and what is important.

This is the only way that it can all work. It is the only way that the natural world can be compartmentalized and commodified. It is the only way that the killing ideologies of militarism, nationalism and capitalism can go unquestioned. Now, of course, we can see it has worked all too well as we march head long into extinction with nary a concern. But the tower of mythology that supports every aspect of industrial civilization is beginning to crumble beneath the weight of its own hubris and apathetic indulgences. We ignored the planet’s boundaries, and now those boundaries are closing in on us fast.

The world will look entirely different in just a mere decade or so. This is not a prophetic declaration, it is a certainty that is easy to demonstrate. Our leaders, when they are not in outright denial, reinforce the absurd notion that we still have plenty of time to stop climate change even as it is abruptly shifting before our eyes. And sustainability is nothing more than a lie of consumer capitalism. What, after all, is worth sustaining? A societal model that requires an economy that must grow regardless of the ecological and social costs? Or that tolerates mass species extinction? Or that allows for endless military aggression to ensure a constant flow of minerals and fuel to produce objects which will end up in a landfill or in the ocean for eons? If depression and neuroses are companions of cancer and heart disease in this model of sustainability, is this really worth preserving?

The stark truth is that there is little collective will to change the path we are currently on as a species. Its trajectory is solidly towards collapse of the biosphere. And even if monumental changes were implemented tomorrow by the powers that be it would not stop the seas from rising, or stop the process of ocean acidification, or resolve the plastic soup that churns at its center, or solve the never ending meltdown at Chernobyl or Fukushima, or prevent the release of methane from the seabed, or stave off famine for millions of people, and bring back thousands of species now gone forever.

Letting Go of a World in Collapse: The Conversation We’re Too Afraid to Have

Over the past few months I’ve been feeling a greater sense of grief over the state of the world with the accelerating breakdown that is playing out in every aspect of life on Earth. I’m finding it increasingly difficult to navigate this Gaia Grief as I call it, knowing that everything I love so dearly—animals and nature—are being mindlessly consumed, commoditized and destroyed with reckless abandon. Joanna Macy calls this breakdown The Great Unraveling. The word that resonates most with me is collapse.

These premonitions have a persistent ocean theme that come with two words, “It’s over.”

My intellect is grasping, trying to understand what the “it” is that’s over. Is it literal: the collapse of our oceans? Is it our dominant patriarchal worldview of separation? Is it our consumptive culture of infinite growth, ignorance, distraction, and relentless destruction? Is it our biosphere? Is it humanity? Is it life on Earth? There’s no doubt that we’re collectively committing ecocide, is it more?

As my mind struggles for answers, my heart doesn’t care. Content is irrelevant. To my heart it makes no difference if the “it” is cultural, economic, ecological, or human collapse. Rather than allow my mind to exhaust me with possible future scenarios, my heart has chosen to be fully present with what is. In this acceptance, I’ve unleashed a force from within that knows that no matter how it all plays out, it’s ok, because the love in my heart remains steadfast through it all.
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Grieving in Silence, Grieving Out Loud. (Original Post) GliderGuider May 2016 OP
very moving essay. The sentiments and grief are shared bbgrunt May 2016 #1
KUDOS, For A GREAT POST! ChiciB1 May 2016 #2
All things come to an end Boomer May 2016 #3
Yes, I still believe in the truth of those insights. GliderGuider May 2016 #4
We may be able to sterilize the globe yet. mackdaddy May 2016 #5
Maybe, maybe not. GliderGuider May 2016 #6
Everyone with a full plate and diseases cured is how we got here The2ndWheel May 2016 #7
K&R the silent scream. CRH May 2016 #8
Thank you GliderGuider, nt Bigmack May 2016 #9
You're welcome. GliderGuider May 2016 #10
k&r, nt Electric Monk Jun 2016 #11

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
1. very moving essay. The sentiments and grief are shared
Sun May 15, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

by many. In the end, it may be all we can do to stave off insanity, but until then we must do all we can to carry on the fight against the dying of the light.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
2. KUDOS, For A GREAT POST!
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

I completely agree with all that was written. My thought exactly, but can't quite get to the "glass half full" feeling much these days.

Even worse is that far too many people DON'T want to listen when you express these concerns and I can understand it, but because I feel so passionate about this reality I'm unable to look the other way.

The don't worry be happy smiley face is GREAT and sends positive vibes. Too bad it's not about smiley faces so much of the time. See, you didn't want to hear that last sentence because it's too negative.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
3. All things come to an end
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

GliderGuider, in the past you've outlined with compelling insights how we, as humans, are trapped by the nature of our emotions to play out this grand drama and why we're so crippled in our ability to avert disaster.

If you still believe (as I do) in the truth of what you said then, it follows that we are witnessing a natural disaster; the Anthropocene is just the latest ripple in the persistent, continual churn of our ecosphere. It hurts because we're witnessing it personally rather than divining the catastrophes of another age in layers of sediment, far removed from the messy details of individual deaths and the loss species we've never seen walking in front of us.

I think of the human species as the latest asteroid to hit the Earth. It may seem more personal than that at the individual level, but in the aggregate, we're just about as mindless as that piece of rock.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
4. Yes, I still believe in the truth of those insights.
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

And as you say, we appear to be the agents of a planetary natural disaster. Comparable events might have been asteroids, tectonic events like the Deccan and Siberian flood basalts, the Toba supervolcano eruption, or perhaps the evolution of cyanobacteria and the ensuing Oxygen Catastrophe. Unlike the cyanobacteria I don't think we'll wipe out most life on the planet, but that's pretty cold comfort.

We are the Cassandra species - able to comprehend the consequences of our actions, but unable to avert them.

There may be no fault to be found or blame to be laid, but it's still a pretty sad and shitty deal.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
5. We may be able to sterilize the globe yet.
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:41 PM
May 2016

I think that we will be able to wipe almost everything out with extreme climate shifts.

The thing that may truly complete the job is the 440 or so nuclear reactors around the globe plus how ever many military/navy reactors, plus the 800 or so spent fuel storage locations.

Once we are gone and not able to tend these things any more, it will be Fukishima times a hundred. I have not doubt that this will be the slamming of the coffin lid for humanity, but I have not way of evaluating if anything can survive this, even microbes.

The earth may have to wait a million years or so for our folly to clear out to re-start with the old primordial soup. Of course the earth has the time.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. Maybe, maybe not.
Mon May 16, 2016, 06:00 AM
May 2016

I don't think even a +10C warming would do in all life. On the other hand, the higher the average temperature goes, the deeper it will prune the tree of life, and the longer it will take for the resurgence of more complex forms.

When we're talking on this scale, I think the radiation from the 440 nukes is essentially inconsequential. Once humans are gone, it becomes just part of the planet's character. Frankly, it's already that even with human here, but since we're the ones remembering history, imagining the future, making judgments and experiencing existential fears, it doesn't feel like that to us.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
7. Everyone with a full plate and diseases cured is how we got here
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:18 AM
May 2016

People traveling, vacations, jobs, wanting/needing their children to have it better than they did, universal human rights, all the stuff we like. That's what got us here. We wish all that good stuff wasn't part of a "consumptive culture", but it is. We can't just get rid of the bad stuff that we don't like. It makes us feel good to complain about militarism or nationalism, but the stuff that we like is also involved in the equation.

But as humans, we're supposed to strive for something more, something better. We can, and maybe we should. Maybe like the lion taking down a zebra with its speed, fangs, and claws, humans just try to control everything with our big brains. That's going to come at a cost though, which we cannot escape. If we could just have more control, we'd be able to get out of the problems caused by increasing our ability to control.

Not wanting to die is how we got to an increasingly full world. It's a perfectly legitimate and sane desire to not want to die, which is why this whole thing has no solution. Each and every time we save someone's life, however we do it, we make the overall equation that much more complicated. Not good or bad, it just is.

We like all the stuff that being human got us, but we don't like how we got it. We try to deny how we got it, without giving up what we got. We want the best of both worlds, without paying the cost of either one. That's why there's no answer. We're not willing to say fuck it, and go all in. Although we're closer to that than the alternative, which is that we're not willing to let go of what human beings have won in the struggle against death.

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