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As climate crisis worsens, it's Interior Secretary Jewell who's being naïveI was deeply disturbed to read Interior Secretary Sally Jewells latest dismissal of the growing national call to keep federal fossil fuels in the ground to avoid catastrophic impacts of climate change as naïve. And that, as a nation dependent on fossil fuels, it is naïve to think we can shift to 100 percent renewable energy.
Jewell is no minor player in our nations quest to stem the climate crisis. As Interior secretary, she is a key decision maker for the fate of publicly owned, federally managed coal, oil and gas and the 450 billion tons of potential greenhouse gas emissions they hold. The decisions from her Department will have a very real impact on greenhouse gas emissions in the U.S. Thats why its so troubling to hear her blithely dismiss the keep it in the ground movement as naïve.
Naïve is believing we can curb the climate crisis through half-measures. Naïve is hoping that continuing to do business as usual with the fossil fuel industry gets us anywhere close to whats necessary. Naïve is ignoring the overwhelming advice of scientists who say we must act now in a very big way to avoid the worst effects of this crisis by keeping up to 80 percent of known fossil fuel reserves safely in the ground.
Recently, while at a Washington, D.C., reception, I was talking with Secretary Jewell about oil and gas fracking on Americas public lands. When I raised the necessity of keeping fossil fuels in the ground, Jewell looked at me and in a gotcha kind of way and asked me whether I drove a car? Its pretty disconcerting when the secretary of the Interior is using the exact same talking point as the Western Energy Alliance, a consortium of oil and gas companies that promotes increased drilling and fracking, whose representative I debated on a panel a few months back at the Tulane School of Law conference.
I drive a used plug-in Prius hybrid powered in large part by the solar panels on my roof in D.C. but thats beside the point. Jewell repeats time and again that we are a nation dependent on fossil fuels and the transition to a blend of fossil fuels and renewable energy will take time because, as she explained recently, it is complex.
Unfortunately, climate change wont wait for Sally Jewell or the fossil fuel industry to be ready to transition. In order to avoid catastrophic effects of............................more
Randi Spivak is the Director of the Public Land Program Center for Biological Diversity
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/280598-as-climate-crisis-worsens-its-interior-secretary#disqus_thread
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)and the fate of the world was not in the balance!
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Our lives and our institutions will be profoundly changed.
It would surely be better if these changes were made by us rather than done to us.
So lets start think big about how to truly combat climate change
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Climate change isn't even an objective problem.
One of the things that got us into this is that we would rather make the changes ourselves. It's a human thing. We probably can't even not do that. We do that subjectively though, not being able to take every variable into account. So as we make changes, other things change too. Then we have to make more changes to fix the changes from our previous changes.
There is no beginning or end. There won't be a "hooray, we beat climate change!" moment. We think there's an answer out there somewhere, the same way that we think the year 2016 exists. We think we're going to the top right of the graph in a diagonal fashion, or that even going to the top right of the graph is a good thing, or that we can even measure existence on a graph.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)boy that's progressive and visionary.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)PiP's with their 11 mile AEV are tricky to get most of their mileage from solar unless it's a very short trip only vehicle, especially if you run AC in that famously steamy and traffic-choked area.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Great choice!1
I think you are missing the whole point .....
He's saying just his little part is helping
Your AC could use backup solar or wind but hey
Frack the hell out of our public lands.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)yes with solar too. The point of this guy (not sure if article writer or OP) is trying to greenwash a cynical marketing ploy that was expressly designed as a way to get CA HOV stickers with the lowest possible battery range. Toyota hates EVs with a passion, driven no doubt by the billions they have wasted betting on hydrogen propulsion that will rely on six-figure fuelling stations which are useless until the cars (which are in turn useless without those mega $$ fuelling stations) sell in huge numbers, and jumped on this silliness to cock a snoot at them. Surely every little helps, in much the same way avoiding every unnecessary calorie helps a diet, but to make that point while crowing about a real world 6-8 mile EV range car is akin to lecturing triathletes when you get the medium chocolate milk shake with your supersized McDonalds happy meal instead of the large.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Instead of side tracking and talking about your electric car?
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)The "vision" of fracking? At best a temporary stopgap as limited as possible until a real Manhattan-project style shift to renewables pays off, starting with mandating solar panels on the roof of every government building and commercial building over a certain size, fast-tracking wind and hydro proposals, taking over a few hundred acres of the Mojave for solar, investing in smart grid technology, rendering illegal any HOA restrictions and covenants against rooftop solar panels, subsidizing pale roofing shingles (which will thus slowly become the norm in developments and replacements and geothermal HVAC refits, making EV subsidies rebates not tax reductions so everyone can get them. Then I'd start getting creative and offering a substantial DoE grant for anyone who can integrate natural plant fiber into solar panels (it's how plants get energy after all and has some fascinating early success), make inductive charging efficient even in parking lots, coupled with PV roofs that offer both shade and free megawatts, develop small hydro chargers that can be placed in every fast-moving waterway with minimal environmental impact, integrate similarly small wind turbines into residential construction, and things like that.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)I was about to give up.
You should turn these excellent suggestions into 25+ bullet points and post them in GD.
Btw, I know these posts belong in E&E but I am tired of reading ignorant posts of too many uninformed DUers who should know better -- that's why I suggest folks xpost in GD.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I've never seen a car that runs on methane. Has anyone else seen a car that runs on methane?
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)But no I haven't but I have seen that argument used
by Big Oil advocates. and politicians.
But not by scientists.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Hope this gets more recommendations.
Washington still has its collective head up its ass and our prez has only been paying lip service to the cause.