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Eugene

(61,906 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:42 PM May 2016

Replacing Flint's lead pipes is double the estimate

Source: Detroit Free Press

Replacing Flint's lead pipes is double the estimate

Matthew Dolan, Detroit Free Press 9:04 a.m. EDT May 28, 2016

A new report average cost for replacing service water lines was $7,500. That's almost double the average cost of $4,000 estimated by state last fall.

The price of clean water in Flint could be rising significantly.

A new report obtained by the Detroit Free Press shows the average cost for replacing a service water line in the city through a pilot project that ended this month was $7,500. That's almost double the average cost of $4,000 for each replacement estimated by the state Department of Environmental Quality at the beginning of the water crisis last fall.

The true cost could even be higher. Not included in the calculations were average permit fees of $2,400 per site, according to the 115-page report produced by the engineering company Rowe Professional Services for the State of Michigan.

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Read more: http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/05/27/flint-lead-lines-water-crisis/85032096/

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Replacing Flint's lead pipes is double the estimate (Original Post) Eugene May 2016 OP
Well, it needs to be done. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #1
Permit Fee? MattP May 2016 #2
It cost my BIL almost $7K to copper repipe his 1 story, 2 1/2 bath house in Calif. procon May 2016 #3
The city is going to charge itself for its own permits? Ed Suspicious May 2016 #4
and a ridiculous charge it is. mopinko May 2016 #6
I am not so sure that these "have to" be replaced. mackdaddy May 2016 #5

procon

(15,805 posts)
3. It cost my BIL almost $7K to copper repipe his 1 story, 2 1/2 bath house in Calif.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

Permits, materials, labor is all expensive, and it only covered the essential repairs to the structure to cover their work. Like the company drywall patched the walls, but they don't do the repainting. They refilled the holes in slab with cement, but they don't replace the flooring. They backfilled the outside trench with dirt, but they don't repair the sidewalk, the driveway, the lawn or the landscaping. Those were all extra costs in addition to the pipe refitting, and he was lucky to have family and friends to help put everything back together.

It might cost less it flint, but for multi-storied houses with basements that also have long freezing winters, it won't be cheap in any case.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
5. I am not so sure that these "have to" be replaced.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:24 PM
May 2016

I think that much of this is deflection of the gross mismanagement of the water system by the Republicans.

I agree than it would be stupid to put new lead pipe in, but there are old existing lead pipe in ever major city in the country. The pipes build up a coating that isolates the lead, and keeps it out of the water flow.

The main problem in Flint was not that there were lead pipes. Those have been there for decades to over a century. The real problem was that the Republicans decided to first suck corrosive water from a polluted river, and second to not put the lead stabilizing treatment into the water. Thus the previously stable lead in the pipes start leaching into the water supply.

I have not problem with replacing the lead pipes, but this is a diversion of the blame from the Governor.

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