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NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:16 PM Sep 2016

False Promises: Avoid "Miracle" Rice and Just Eat a Carrot

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37560-false-promises-avoid-miracle-rice-and-just-eat-a-carrot


False Promises: Avoid "Miracle" Rice and Just Eat a Carrot

Saturday, 10 September 2016
By Vandana Shiva, Inter Press Service

New Delhi -- Norman Borlaug, father of the Green Revolution, died on September 9, 2009. Alfred G. Gilman died on December 23, 2015.

Both were Nobel laureates and now both dead. Gilman was a signatory to a recent letter condemning Greenpeace and its opposition to genetic engineering.

How many Nobel laureates does it take to write a letter? Easily ascertained -- the dead Gilman and 106 others were enlisted in "supporting GMOs and golden rice". Correct answer -- 107, dead or alive.

...snip...

But golden rice is a false miracle. It is a disease of nutritionally empty monocultures offered as a cure for nutritional deficiency. In fact, golden rice, if successful, will be 400 per cent less efficient in providing Vitamin A than the biodiversity alternatives that women have to offer. To get your daily requirement of Vitamin A, all you need to eat is one of the following:

Two tablespoons of spinach or cholai (amaranth) leaves or radish leaves
Four tablespoons of mustard or bathua leaves
One tablespoon of coriander chutney
One-and-a-half tablespoon of mint chutney
One carrot
One mango

So, if you want to be four times more efficient than 107 Nobel laureates, just eat a carrot!



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NickB79

(19,253 posts)
1. Yet almost half a million children go blind every year from a lack of Vit A
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 02:56 PM
Sep 2016

If it were as simple as the author wants us to believe, why are there ANY children losing their sight in this day and age?

So, if you want to be four times more efficient than 107 Nobel laureates, just eat a carrot!


This sounds dangerously like a rich American telling a poor person sweltering in a 3rd world country to just turn up their air conditioning to cope with climate change.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. If Golden Rice were the savior claimed,
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:32 PM
Sep 2016

why are there ANY children losing their sight in this day and age?

Why is it more feasible to provide resources for distribution of rice than it is any other solution?

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
7. Because Golden Rice hasn't been distributed for use in most nations of the world, for one
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 05:20 PM
Sep 2016

And protestors have destroyed entire fields of the stuff, for another.

Why is it more feasible to provide resources for distribution of rice than it is any other solution?


Rice farmers can actually save seed and propagate Golden Rice from their initial harvest, meaning that a one-time distribution is all it takes to kick off a self-perpetuating cycle. Air-lifting carrots to millions of vitamin-deficient children annually isn't a sustainable model.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
11. Carrots, the hard-to-grow luxury food
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:02 PM
Sep 2016

according to the GMO lobby and DU contortionists. They are a cursed species of plant adapted to hipster gardens and large aircraft.... so impactical!!

Pioneers used to favor them because roots store well, but they're so impractical!!!

Meanwhile, we throw away 40% of our food.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
9. No. "Good enough for thee, but not for me" sounds like
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:14 PM
Sep 2016

a rich American preaching about golden rice. And that is dangerous.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
2. Oh good. More brilliance from Vandana Shiva.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:08 PM
Sep 2016

Sure, just eat a mango!

What? You don't have a mango?

Then eat some mint chutney.
What? No mint chutney either?

Well surely you have some spinach or carrots in the refrigerator!
What? You don't even have a refrigerator?

What are you, poor or something?
Oh, yeah. Oops.





Sweet baby jesus, that diatribe is chock full of BS and straw man nonsense.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
3. Can you provide anything other than a "shoot the messenger" fallacy?
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:30 PM
Sep 2016

Is there reason to believe that corporate rice is more readily disseminated than any of the listed alternatives? You assert that none of those alternatives are available to those suffering, but it is certainly reasonable to note that Golden Rice isn't available either.
To me as a policy analyst, the issue seems more one rooted in distribution of resources than it does lack of existing food source.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
5. We'll probably never know about it's potential.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 04:06 PM
Sep 2016

Golden rice is not available because it has been stymied by people's luddite concerns of GMOs; stimulated by fear-mongers like Shiva.

Strange that Shiva doesn't explain where her flippant alternatives are being implemented.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. If the problem and benefits are as claimed how would the critics stop it?
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 04:27 PM
Sep 2016

As specific on how that view is probably not sustainable, I know from personal experience how ingrained is the habit of polishing rice in the process of preparation. As I understand it, the benefits of the GR are in the outermost layer. Most peoples that eat rice as a staple routinely wash off that out layer in the prep process to protect against a toxic mold.

Is that the fault of the critics or is that a problem with this specific solution?

Shiva's alternatives are being used all over the world. The better question is why aren't they being used in areas of Vit. A deficiency? Can you say with authority that distribution isn't the core issue? It's my first assumption but I don't know much on the topic.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
12. The bigger question is why would they stop it.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 11:36 AM
Sep 2016

But as for the how...

In the Philippines activists physically destroying the fields.





So who were these attackers? Did they look like farmers? "No," replied Boncodin. "Maybe two or three of them were farmers, but the rest of them were not real farmers. I could see that this was the first time they had stepped in mud or been to a farm. They were city boys, city girls. Two of them were even sporting dyed hair. ... Would you consider a farmer having dyed hair?"

There is additional evidence beyond the physical appearance of the activists. "Real farmers will not trash a living rice plant," said Boncodin, who is a native of the region where the vandalism took place. "They have this culture that it is unlucky to kill a living rice plant," even if plants are diseased and threaten to infect the rest of the crop.

This taboo on destroying green rice plants is widespread and even has a name: Bosung. Boncodin insists that the real farmers "stayed by the side, and didn't directly participate in the trashing of the trial site." When local people were informed, their reaction, he said, was that "no sane farmer would do that to a living rice plant."

When the news of the attack was related to local farmer leaders, they were aghast. According to Boncodin, one of them, a 50-year-old man, burst into tears at the thought that so many young rice plants had been destroyed.


Yes. distribution would be a great solution. Distribution would also be a great solution for food deserts and nutritional deficiencies here in the US as well. But we can't seem to even get distribution to work in the wealthiest democracy in the world.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
13. I don't consider that evidence of anything.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 01:59 PM
Sep 2016
September 12, 2016
Sugar Industry and Coronary Heart Disease Research
A Historical Analysis of Internal Industry Documents

Early warning signals of the coronary heart disease (CHD) risk of sugar (sucrose) emerged in the 1950s. We examined Sugar Research Foundation (SRF) internal documents, historical reports, and statements relevant to early debates about the dietary causes of CHD and assembled findings chronologically into a narrative case study. The SRF sponsored its first CHD research project in 1965, a literature review published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which singled out fat and cholesterol as the dietary causes of CHD and downplayed evidence that sucrose consumption was also a risk factor. The SRF set the review’s objective, contributed articles for inclusion, and received drafts. The SRF’s funding and role was not disclosed. Together with other recent analyses of sugar industry documents, our findings suggest the industry sponsored a research program in the 1960s and 1970s that successfully cast doubt about the hazards of sucrose while promoting fat as the dietary culprit in CHD. Policymaking committees should consider giving less weight to food industry–funded studies and include mechanistic and animal studies as well as studies appraising the effect of added sugars on multiple CHD biomarkers and disease development.
http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2548255


If you don't recognize the dubious nature of the industry claims behind this product, I'd suggest you are extremely naive.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
15. Nope. Just education for the naive who believe everything any industry tells them...
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 06:22 PM
Sep 2016

... if the industry pays a PhD to write it.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
8. Leaves and roots are too good to give to starving people
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:09 PM
Sep 2016

'Luxury' food that industrial monoculture disdains.

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