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ffr

(22,671 posts)
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:15 PM Oct 2016

I'm expecting -- Monarch Watch

I've taken a special interest in trying to help along three monarch caterpillars who were laid too late this Fall to properly survive our short warm season. I gave one, the original only one, to a friend who has large native milkweed plants in her yard. Later I discovered two more caterpillars that somehow survived some seasonal morning frosts. Since these last two were doing so well, I just left them well enough alone.

I'm new to what it takes for them to survive to adulthood, so after a recent rain I went out to the river to see how they were doing. Not well. My friend had said hers disappeared, so that was one down. Of my remaining two, the larger had also disappeared, probably looking for an impossible warm place to form into a pupa (chrysalis) and the other had spun a silk web with which to suspend himself under a leaf. He/she was comatose and ice cold to the touch, like an ice cube compared to the outside air.

All were destined to die. I decided to step in, taking him and some plant leaves to my warm vehicle and giving him some warm air from the cabin vents. Like being shocked by electricity, he snapped out of his fetal position a few minutes later.

To make a long story short, I made him a little enclosed but vented incubator environment with sticks and fresh milkweed leaves, which he greedily ate for about a week, then stopped eating. Two days ago I found him scampering around wildly in search of something (hint), the following morning, I found him hung upside down to a stick. And on perfect que, when I arrived home yesterday evening he had begun...



In his 75° temperature controlled incubator, we should have a monarch butterfly ready for release, beating the 1 in 100 odds, here on Halloween. He'll be released into the relatively warm open California wilderness shortly thereafter, hopefully joining others overwintering along the coast or in Mexico.

Last year I had two caterpillars in our back yard that I believed also perished due to their being hatched late. Apparently temperature is critical to their pupa development.

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I'm expecting -- Monarch Watch (Original Post) ffr Oct 2016 OP
Fantastic! DarthDem Oct 2016 #1
Congratulations! MH1 Oct 2016 #2
So amazing to experience. ffr Oct 2016 #3
Yes it is. But if you work full-time, MH1 Oct 2016 #4
Beautiful! I raise monarchs too. stuntcat Oct 2016 #5
correction! stuntcat Oct 2016 #6
Update: She hatched right on schedule, October 31st ffr Nov 2016 #7

MH1

(17,600 posts)
4. Yes it is. But if you work full-time,
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:37 PM
Oct 2016

I suggest not ramping up as fast as I did. It's a lot of work, and I was exhausted by the time I released the last one. (I do work full-time, at a rather stressful job.)

The problem for me is, they only have a 2% chance of survival in the wild. So every time I saw an egg or cat on my milkweed, I couldn't help myself, and brought it in to my "nursery". LOL. I did pretty well though, only 2 casualties out of 37 babies. A lot better than 2%.

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
5. Beautiful! I raise monarchs too.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 07:46 PM
Oct 2016

I learned last month that monarchs who emerge from Sept 16th on are the ones who definitely make the journey, so they're important. But my aunt who raises hundreds of them each year said that ones born this late when it's so cold probably won't make it far. I'm really sad because I just released one today and have three more chrysalids waiting. I'll let them out at the hottest sunniest part of the day and just wish them well.
I guess there's an important, magic, 2 or 3 week period after Sept 16th, before it gets cold.

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
6. correction!
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:46 PM
Oct 2016

I talked with someone today who told me monarchs on the west coast can overwinter there. Yours are fine. My late stragglers, not so much.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
7. Update: She hatched right on schedule, October 31st
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 03:07 PM
Nov 2016

Dried and hardened her wings, did a few practice flights, then promptly set out on her journey.

My Monarch caterpillar is hatching at this very moment, right on schedule.
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