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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,486 posts)
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 02:19 PM Apr 2017

From Maine to California, Investors Build Own Green-Power Lines

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From Maine to California, Investors Build Own Green-Power Lines



Investors Are Building Their Own Green-Power Lines

Billionaires want to move renewable power from the plains to big cities; red tape blocks progress

By Russell Gold
April 6, 2017 5:30 a.m. ET

What if the wind sweeping down the plains of Wyoming could be harnessed to generate enough electricity to power the city of Los Angeles? ... It soon could, thanks to a $9 billion wind farm and electricity superhighway backed by billionaire Philip Anschutz —one of a series of transmission-line projects that private investors are bankrolling to bring renewable energy from America’s hinterlands to its urban centers.

Near Rawlins, in rural Wyoming, crews are prepping land near the state line with Colorado so they can build a 3,000-megawatt wind farm, which could be the largest ever constructed in the U.S.

Crucial for moving all that renewable power to market: Mr. Anschutz’s proposed 730-mile transmission line—a giant extension cord of sorts that will deliver the electricity to a point near Las Vegas. From there, the power can easily flow into Southern California’s grid. Mr. Anschutz isn’t the only wealthy investor pumping money into power-line projects in an effort to bring green energy to big cities. The Ziff family, whose fortune harks back to the glory days of magazine publishing, also is partly funding a green-power project between Oklahoma and Tennessee.

Altogether, these and other merchant-transmission projects could cost upward of $17 billion, plus at least a further $20 billion in wind, solar and hydro projects to fill these lines. There are no federal subsidies available for building transmission lines, though wind farm developers are eligible to tap a U.S. tax credit for building new production.
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The comments to the article are worth a look. They go off into a discussion of the costs of power based on the energy source. When asked for a source for his costs, one commenter links to this:

L A Z A R D ' S L E V E L I Z E D C O S T O F E N E R G Y A N A L Y S I S — V E R S I O N 9 . 0
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From Maine to California, Investors Build Own Green-Power Lines (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2017 OP
It's an excellent scheme to sneak coal power into California. hunter Apr 2017 #1
Zippy disagrees. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2017 #3
That would motivate me to work harder Kolesar Apr 2017 #4
Those electricity superhighways are devastation WhiteTara Apr 2017 #2
I'm not sure what threat overhead power lines pose to the local plants and animals. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2017 #5
It is a scorched earth policy at the base of the lines WhiteTara Apr 2017 #6

hunter

(38,317 posts)
1. It's an excellent scheme to sneak coal power into California.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 02:34 PM
Apr 2017

Power lines are butt ugly too.

This project won't make the world a better place.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,486 posts)
3. Zippy disagrees.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 02:52 PM
Apr 2017

I posted this at the entrance to my cubicle probably two years ago. All the nearby cubicles have become empty since then. Hmmmmm.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
2. Those electricity superhighways are devastation
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 02:38 PM
Apr 2017

to the local flora and fauna. Of course, who needs a stinking planet? We are masters of the universe and we can kill the whole thing off if we want to! It's our right, by God! We're Americans!!!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,486 posts)
5. I'm not sure what threat overhead power lines pose to the local plants and animals.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 09:31 AM
Apr 2017

It is required that the proper clearances be observed between overhead power lines and the surroundings. These figures are found in Section 23. Clearances, of the 2017 National Electric Safety Code (NESC). You're not going to have sequoias growing underneath overhead transmission lines.

A search turned up this:

Power Lines Upset Cows' Compass

March 16, 2009·12:08 AM ET


Beyond that, I'm not sure what threat overhead power lines pose to the local plants and animals. Can you elaborate?

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
6. It is a scorched earth policy at the base of the lines
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 10:28 AM
Apr 2017

the strip of land under the lines are minimum 150 feet wide and they use herbicides to kill everything rendering the earth barren and butterflies and other pollinators are unable make the jump. There are other problems but this one is big.

We fought a super highway in our area because of the geology and the unique flora and fauna in our area. We did win and if you are interested, go to Save the Ozarks on facebook and you can read a lot of the problems associated with the lines.

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