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Rhiannon12866

(205,933 posts)
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 02:36 AM Jan 2018

First Came the Snow Bomb, Now Comes the Salt Bomb

Pervasive winter de-icing of America’s roadways is destroying infrastructure and potentially harming your water.

After the snow from last week’s bomb cyclone melts, cities and towns across the northeast will find their roads and sidewalks still a ghostly white.

That fine white powder is salt, America’s favorite de-icing chemical. More than 15 million tons of the stuff is applied annually, only to wash away with snowmelt or spring rains. But just because it’s gone from your block doesn’t mean it’s gone for good. In fact, it may end up in your faucet.

Road salt is an influential part of a decades-long chemistry experiment local governments have unwittingly conducted on soil, waterways and infrastructure. Studying river data nationwide, research published Monday explains that 37 percent of all U.S. river systems have greater salinity, and 90 percent have seen a decrease in acidity, compared with a century ago. The two trends are related, scientists conclude, as urbanization and widespread use of chemicals such as road salt do serious damage.

Why is less acid bad? Here’s how nature usually works. Raindrops absorb atmospheric carbon dioxide, turning them slightly acidic. It’s the same reaction that makes drinking a lot of seltzer potentially bad for your teeth. When that rain hits the ground, specifically rock and soil, the acid frees up ions from mineral salts—and washes such things as magnesium and calcium into rivers and out to sea, a process that scientists call “weathering.”

Much more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-08/first-came-the-snow-bomb-now-comes-the-salt-bomb



Road salt is loaded into a truck in the Boston suburb of Chelsea, Mass. on Jan. 3. Photographer: Bill Sikes/AP Photo
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First Came the Snow Bomb, Now Comes the Salt Bomb (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 OP
It's only gotten worse as the years go by Blues Heron Jan 2018 #1
And in my neck of the woods (New York) it also causes cars to rust Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #2
It's totally out of control Blues Heron Jan 2018 #3
While I appreciate the plow guys that go out in the worst of it Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #4
same in chicago. mopinko Jan 2018 #5
are alternative de-icers any better? mopinko Jan 2018 #6
Cheese brine Massacure Jan 2018 #7

Blues Heron

(5,939 posts)
1. It's only gotten worse as the years go by
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 08:09 AM
Jan 2018

Now we have an almost zero tolerance policy for snowy roads. 1/4 inch of snow = 1/2 inch of salt seems to be the going ratio these days.

Rhiannon12866

(205,933 posts)
2. And in my neck of the woods (New York) it also causes cars to rust
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 08:16 AM
Jan 2018

I mentioned this to my cousin in Colorado, where they also get a lot of snow, and he didn't know what I was talking about.

Blues Heron

(5,939 posts)
3. It's totally out of control
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 08:23 AM
Jan 2018

I almost wiped out walking on a sidewalk going down a hill there was so much salt laid down. More is better is the operative mindset these days.

Nobody wants to be sued I guess is the bottom line.

Rhiannon12866

(205,933 posts)
4. While I appreciate the plow guys that go out in the worst of it
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 08:43 AM
Jan 2018

And it has been especially bad this year - I'm heartbroken that my Pontiac wouldn't pass inspection this time around and all because of rust. When the temperature allows, I get it washed, but it's hit 20 below several times already this winter, record lows all over.

mopinko

(70,206 posts)
5. same in chicago.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:35 AM
Jan 2018

never had a car that didnt rust out.
i once had an old 240z. it rusted out so bad the frame came apart.

mopinko

(70,206 posts)
6. are alternative de-icers any better?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jan 2018

i use the pet friendly stuff on my walks, not just for the pets on the block, but in hopes it is better for my soils. i dont know, tho.

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