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hatrack

(59,587 posts)
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:33 AM Mar 2018

Auto Manufacturers Talk Green & EVs; Meanwhile, Auto Trade Group Lobbies To Cut Efficiency Targets

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But last month, a major lobbying arm of the car industry, the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, quietly submitted an anti-science report to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). Last year, the Trump Administration started the process of undoing Obama’s strong fuel economy standards that apply to model years 2022–2025. So the goal of the Alliance report is to support Trump’s effort by discrediting the long-established science linking carbon pollution to dangerous climate change, and linking toxic air pollution to sickness and death.

One of the report’s authors is actually long-time climate science denier Joseph D’Aleo — who has remained a policy adviser to the notorious anti-science Heartland Institute even after they put up a billboard comparing climate science believers and reporters to mass “murderers and madmen.” The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) has thoroughly debunked the car companies’ report, which is straight out of the science denier playbook. As the UCS points out, “the Alliance report cites studies by Tony Cox which were directly funded by the American Petroleum Institute in order to cast doubt on the proven health impacts of soot.”

The report’s only scientific citation used to cast doubt on the well-established science that climate change worsens droughts and flood is research published in 2004. Yet, the Alliance report omits a key finding of that research: “studies indicate that a substantial intensification of the global hydrologic cycle is likely in a warming world.” Nor does the report include more recent research connecting rising temperatures to more extreme weather.

The Alliance report, instead, cites a magazine article and a study to argue that climate models are unreliable. But the New York Times talked to the authors of those two pieces, who explained that the Alliance report cherry-picked quotes and misrepresented their findings. Yet while the Alliance pushes science denial to fight clean car regulations, key members of the industry group are hypocritically touting their commitment to both science and cleaner cars. For instance, Ford paints itself as climate friendly by issuing reports like “The Science Behind Our Climate Change Strategy” — a strategy which is “based on our commitment to do our share to stabilize CO2 in the atmosphere.”

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https://thinkprogress.org/car-companies-hire-climate-denier-to-attack-clean-cars-e533fd00420c/

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Auto Manufacturers Talk Green & EVs; Meanwhile, Auto Trade Group Lobbies To Cut Efficiency Targets (Original Post) hatrack Mar 2018 OP
Not really surprising on one level Pope George Ringo II Mar 2018 #1
To the extent that they do talk EV's, they are no less environmentally pernicious when they ask... NNadir Mar 2018 #2

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
1. Not really surprising on one level
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:59 AM
Mar 2018

Going green is a public relations win, lower targets are cheaper to hit and allow for ads saying "We beat the federal goals by 300%/three years!" or whatever. Of course they want lower targets.

Still, I'd have thought they'd have been more serious about putting up an argument. Unless they're just working on the assumption that the current administration can't even be bothered to put on some theater.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
2. To the extent that they do talk EV's, they are no less environmentally pernicious when they ask...
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:41 PM
Mar 2018

...to suspend efficiency requirements.

When you go through 6 or 7 energy transformations before turning a wheel, it's hardly about efficiency. It's about converting more energy into entropy, that is wasting energy.

Over at "think progress" they simply repeat rote dogma about the environment but seem to know very little about the real nuts and bolts of environmentalism.

Slaves, some who are children, digging cobalt in the Congo region for car batteries for Elon Musk's electric cars in "green" Southern California has very little to do with "progress" any more than King Leopold's slaves in the so called "Belgian Congo" working rubber plantations for Henry Ford's tires did.

They're not "thinking progress" when they object to people not being fully devoted to EV's. EV's are window dressing on the car CULTure. They're not clean; they're not ethical; and they have nothing at all to do with environmentalism.

This is a case of assholes calling out assholes for being assholes.

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