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progressoid

(49,990 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:34 PM Aug 2018

With glyphosate-cancer legal battles poised to escalate, what are the ramifications for agriculture

With glyphosate-cancer legal battles poised to escalate, what are the ramifications for agriculture if the herbicide is restricted?



What might be the impact on farming and farmers if glyphosate is restricted or banned?

These gains in crop yields and the resulting lower food prices could be easily undone, however. If restrictions on glyphosate prevented farmers from planting herbicide-tolerant crops. “There would be an annual loss of global farm income gains of $6.76 billion,” Brookes and his team wrote, “and lower levels of global soybean, corn and canola production equal to the gains achieved since 1996.”

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Resurgence of more toxic herbicides

The use of glyphosate has soared by more than 15-times since its pairing with GE crops in 1996. But overall herbicide use has remained fairly constant and the per acre toxicity of herbicide use has actually gone down over the past 22 years, noted Brookes and his colleagues:

Since 1996, the total use of herbicides on GMO crops was reduced by 259.3 million kg of active ingredient (a 4.1% reduction) …” But once a glyphosate ban took effect, “there would be …. a net increase in the use of herbicides of 8.2 million kg …


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Acceleration of climate change

Finally, the potential impact of a glyphosate ban on climate change would be considerable. Because the herbicide so effectively controls weeds, farmers began to practice no-till farming en masse in 1974 when glyphosate was first introduced, well before the debut of the first genetically engineered herbicide tolerant crops in the late 1990s.


Before the introduction of glyphosate and other herbicides, farmers had to till their fields with ploughs to eliminate weeds in early spring before planting a new crop. This process, though necessary at the time, “doesn’t do much good for the soil structure,“ Walton said. “It speeds up the decomposition of crop residue and soil organic matter. That leads to increases in carbon release from the soil via CO2.” Plant scientist Steve Savage added that the widespread adoption of glyphosate was part of a broader effort to make farming more sustainable:

With the introduction of herbicides in the 1960s, farmers, equipment companies and chemical companies began to develop ways to grow crops without tillage (no-till). Herbicide tolerant crops greatly enhanced the farmer’s ability to adopt these methods in the mid 1990s.

There are other implications in the battle to control carbon release, Brookes and his colleagues have written:

There would be additional carbon emissions arising from increased fuel usage and decreased soil carbon [storage], equal to the equivalent of adding 11.77 million cars to the roads …. Land use changes will arise, with an additional cropping area of 762,000 hectares, of which 53% derives from new land brought into cropping agriculture, including 167,000 of deforestation. These land use changes are likely to induce the generation of an additional 234,000 million kg of carbon dioxide emissions.










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With glyphosate-cancer legal battles poised to escalate, what are the ramifications for agriculture (Original Post) progressoid Aug 2018 OP
Lower food prices? Where is that at? Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #1
guess this means KT2000 Aug 2018 #2
Well, until now the earth didn't have to deal with 7.5 billion people. progressoid Aug 2018 #3
glyphosate is used in agriculture KT2000 Aug 2018 #4

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
2. guess this means
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:21 PM
Aug 2018

that in order for people to not get cancer from working with it - we should allow those deaths so Monsanto can continue to grow. There is no other solution - workers are just cogs in the machine anyway - screw 'em.
I can't imagine how the earth managed to make if without glyphosate in every yard and on every farm. The end is near

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
3. Well, until now the earth didn't have to deal with 7.5 billion people.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:29 PM
Aug 2018

It would be a lot better if we got people to stop breeding so much. But that's not likely to happen just yet. So as much as we hate current farming methods, good luck trying grow food to feed those 7.5 billion people without some advanced technologies (including chemicals).

The irony of the statement that "workers are just cogs in the machine" is that without those nasty chemicals, you'd need a LOT more worker cogs to grow those crops. And farming is already dangerous and hard. So let's make it harder and more dangerous?

According to a 2015 report of the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor, agriculture remains one of the most dangerous industries in the United States with the highest incidence of fatal workplace injuries. Farmworkers face workplace hazards similar to those found in other industrial settings, such as working with heavy machinery and hard physical labor....http://www.ncfh.org/uploads/3/8/6/8/38685499/fs-occ_health_2018.pdf


Yes, exposure to chemicals is one of the dangers of farming. It has been for centuries. Even "organic" farmers use chemicals. But today's chemicals are better than yesterday's. And tomorrow's will be better than todays (assuming we don't go full luddite).
To quote the Credible Hulk,
“Opponents of glyphosate often seem to hold this unfounded notion that, if they can manage to get glyphosate banned or simply willingly abandoned, then it would mean an improvement in both food and environmental safety, but the truth is it would likely be the exact opposite of that. Weeds are a legitimate problem in farming that has to be dealt with one way or another. In its absence, it would have to be replaced with something else, and it would likely be something more caustic: not less.”


KT2000

(20,577 posts)
4. glyphosate is used in agriculture
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 08:34 PM
Aug 2018

and in residential areas, school grounds, roadsides, national and state forests and parks - and more. Monsanto knew there were health dangers and ran with it anyway, hiding the evidence- they encouraged use everywhere they could, all the while demeaning people who were against it's use. They have harassed farmers who do not use it and taught retailers that people who do not use it are liars, paranoids, etc. They run a mafia business and haul in lots of money doing it. This stuff is everywhere such that everyone is eating and inhaling it.
The whole purpose of roundup resistant plants is to sell more roundup - $$$.

My exposure to glyphosate causes serious heart issues which will likely kill me should my neighbor use it in his usual doses on a day where the wind blows my way. I know another person who has the same problem. I have informed him of this but he does not believe me. Monsanto has done a great job of indoctrinating the masses about roundup.

Once had a man call me to see if I knew what he could do about the fact that he and his wife were both recovering from heart surgery and yards on either side had been sprayed with roundup. It was a hot day and they could not even open the windows. All I could say was he could pick up the tab for a stay in a hotel.

The fact is this and other chemicals are affecting this and future generations with health problems. Is Monsanto paying anyone's healthcare bills? No

Your doomsday scenario is meant to keep glyphosate in use EVERYWHERE. That is how Monsanto rolls.

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