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Related: About this forumTo Save Ourselves It's Time to Rethink Our Economic System, Warn Scientists
The planet is struggling. Study after scientific study warns that we've pushed far beyond the physical boundaries of what our living world can sustain.
From increasing temperature extremes causing disastrous weather - including record breaking droughts and unprecedented fires - to plastic choked oceans and ecosystem collapses, it's painfully clear something massive's got to give. And yet most governments are waiting for it to make economic sense before they take action.
In light of this, a background document for the United Nations' (UN) draft Global Sustainable Development Report 2019 suggests we seriously need to consider making drastic changes to our economic systems.
"[T]he economic models which inform political decision-making in rich countries almost completely disregard the energetic and material dimensions of the economy," the researchers wrote in the document.
"Economies have used up the capacity of planetary ecosystems to handle the waste generated by energy and material use."
In other words, maybe it's time to accept we can't somehow maintain endless economic growth on a finite planet.
The UN report is overseen by a group of independent scientists from different disciplines around the world.
https://www.sciencealert.com/un-draft-report-says-we-must-transition-economy-to-tackle-climate-change
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I can't keep up with your pace. We are on the brink, as a planet. imo
The clarion call has so far gone unheeded. All the scientific community, and those whos' heads are not buried in the sand, can do is keep sending the message. No one can say we didn't speak up and take whatever action was in our power.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)If we don't address this bedrock issue, it won't matter what form of government we have.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)on a finite planet. "
Duh ! I knew this 40 years ago..
Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)In the 70's we even bragged about being a nation which had 10% of the world's population and consumed 35% of the world's resources. (I forget the actual numbers, but it was something like that.)
We thought we were hot stuff for doing that, and assumed that when "the world's standard of living equalized" it would be because the rest of the rest of the world rose to our standard. Never mind that simple mathematics proved that doing that was impossible.
We are now seeing the proof we have been idiots and it is indeed impossible.
progree
(10,909 posts)and when it's 1 degree above perfect, I hear air conditioners going on all over the place.
And of course we live out in the weeds and drive an hour or more to our jobs in our cities.
A medium size dog has about as much GHG impact as an SUV driven 12,000 miles per year (mostly from producing the meat it eats). But no. Squeeeee! We need an animal bred to adore us to validate us.
Obviously having fewer children will help, a lot, especially in super-high consumption super-high-waste-generating developed countries.
So would a lot less air travel. Do we really, really need that fancy planet-killing vacation?
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)Resource Based Economics as espoused by Jacques Fresco. 'nuff said.
List left
(595 posts)in the body cells that endlessly increase are called cancer.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Pluvious
(4,313 posts)If we were all effectively immortal,
we'd be talking much better care of our home.
Maybe we don't deserve to survive.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)God wants us to be the richest country on Earth, and above all else (even groveling before god) CONSUME, CONSUME, CONSUME!
I can hear the Republican response to this already. They'll want to nuke the U.N.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's always more, more, more. They can't accept that there are natural downturns in the economy and that constant growth is unrealistic. If a division isn't continuously growing and profitable, it is a failure and those running it and working in it are made redundant.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)So simple to see. Any species provided with excess resources will overpopulate. Rats, humans, whatever. The planet can not and will not sustain endless population growth. Humans are smart enough to know this but too stupid to act on it. Unrestrained growth will be taken care of by nature, by God, by whatever we choose to name our destructor. Plague, starvation, war, lack of water. I do not know by what means our growth will be curtailed, but I do know it will happen.
Sustainable economic conditions, renewable energy, world peace. None of this matters if we are not willing to control our population. I do not believe we can and I know we won't.