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Trump says he has 'natural instinct for science' when it comes to climate change
By REBECCA MORIN 10/17/2018 08:26 AM EDT
President Donald Trump told the Associated Press that he has a "natural instinct for science" that informs his understanding of climate change and allows him to see through the political bias that he accused some scientists of holding.
In his interview, published Wednesday, the president reiterated his belief that the climate is changing but argued that the climate "goes back and forth, back and forth." He claimed that scientists are divided on whether climate change is the result of human activity, even though the vast majority of climate scientists believe that it is.
"You have scientists on both sides of it. My uncle was a great professor at MIT for many years, Dr. John Trump," the president said. "And I didnt talk to him about this particular subject, but I have a natural instinct for science, and I will say that you have scientists on both sides of the picture."
Trump's comments to the AP came in response to remarks he made in an interview with CBS's "60 Minutes," in which the president admitted that climate change is not a hoax, but also said he believes that it may not be "man-made."
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Trump says he has 'natural instinct for science' when it comes to climate change
By REBECCA MORIN 10/17/2018 08:26 AM EDT
President Donald Trump told the Associated Press that he has a "natural instinct for science" that informs his understanding of climate change and allows him to see through the political bias that he accused some scientists of holding.
In his interview, published Wednesday, the president reiterated his belief that the climate is changing but argued that the climate "goes back and forth, back and forth." He claimed that scientists are divided on whether climate change is the result of human activity, even though the vast majority of climate scientists believe that it is.
"You have scientists on both sides of it. My uncle was a great professor at MIT for many years, Dr. John Trump," the president said. "And I didnt talk to him about this particular subject, but I have a natural instinct for science, and I will say that you have scientists on both sides of the picture."
Trump's comments to the AP came in response to remarks he made in an interview with CBS's "60 Minutes," in which the president admitted that climate change is not a hoax, but also said he believes that it may not be "man-made."
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THE NATIONAL INTEREST 9:09 A.M.
Trump: My Natural Instinct for Science Tells Me Climate Science Is Wrong
By Jonathan Chait @jonathanchait
Earlier this month, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which encompasses the consensus finding of climate scientists worldwide, issued a report warning that the effects of climate change may become irreversible by 2040. But since this conclusion implies the need for government action of some kind, and thus threatens a core tenet of conservative movement theology, Republicans ignore or dismiss the findings. Asked by Lesley Stahl about the report, Trump accordingly dismissed it, Youd have to show me the scientists because they have a very big political agenda.
But you know who doesnt have a big political agenda, according to Donald Trump? Donald Trump. The president of the United States styles himself as a man of science, willing to follow the facts wherever they go. In yet another of his current spate of lunatic ramblings he has decided to share with various media, this time the Associated Press, Trump was asked about the report again, and gave an even crazier response. ... Trump asserted that, contrary to the scientific conclusion that pumping heat-trapping gases into the atmosphere has caused an upward ratcheting of temperatures, he sees it as random unexplainable variation: I agree the climate changes, but it goes back and forth, back and forth. When the interviewer noted that scientists have concluded otherwise, Trump asserted his own scientific credentials. ... My uncle was a great professor at MIT for many years. Dr. John Trump, he said. And I didnt talk to him about this particular subject, but I have a natural instinct for science, and I will say that you have scientists on both sides of the picture.
So Trumps claim to scientific competence rests on his belief that science is a matter of instinct, and this instinct is passed on genetically, as evidenced by his uncle. Those lucky few possessed of this gift can look at two competing hypotheses and know which one is correct, without needing to study the evidence, or even having a clear understanding of what evidence means. Trump has luckily inherited this instinct, along with some $400 million in untaxed gifts from his father.
Now, a scientist might reply that science is not a matter of instinct at all but a body of knowledge amassed through experimentation and study. They could even design studies testing the hypothesis that individuals possess a scientific instinct that renders actual knowledge of scientific conclusions unnecessary. But Trump would surely just respond that those scientists have a political agenda, and his instinct, acquired via his uncle, concludes those studies are fake.
Trump: My Natural Instinct for Science Tells Me Climate Science Is Wrong
By Jonathan Chait @jonathanchait
Earlier this month, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which encompasses the consensus finding of climate scientists worldwide, issued a report warning that the effects of climate change may become irreversible by 2040. But since this conclusion implies the need for government action of some kind, and thus threatens a core tenet of conservative movement theology, Republicans ignore or dismiss the findings. Asked by Lesley Stahl about the report, Trump accordingly dismissed it, Youd have to show me the scientists because they have a very big political agenda.
But you know who doesnt have a big political agenda, according to Donald Trump? Donald Trump. The president of the United States styles himself as a man of science, willing to follow the facts wherever they go. In yet another of his current spate of lunatic ramblings he has decided to share with various media, this time the Associated Press, Trump was asked about the report again, and gave an even crazier response. ... Trump asserted that, contrary to the scientific conclusion that pumping heat-trapping gases into the atmosphere has caused an upward ratcheting of temperatures, he sees it as random unexplainable variation: I agree the climate changes, but it goes back and forth, back and forth. When the interviewer noted that scientists have concluded otherwise, Trump asserted his own scientific credentials. ... My uncle was a great professor at MIT for many years. Dr. John Trump, he said. And I didnt talk to him about this particular subject, but I have a natural instinct for science, and I will say that you have scientists on both sides of the picture.
So Trumps claim to scientific competence rests on his belief that science is a matter of instinct, and this instinct is passed on genetically, as evidenced by his uncle. Those lucky few possessed of this gift can look at two competing hypotheses and know which one is correct, without needing to study the evidence, or even having a clear understanding of what evidence means. Trump has luckily inherited this instinct, along with some $400 million in untaxed gifts from his father.
Now, a scientist might reply that science is not a matter of instinct at all but a body of knowledge amassed through experimentation and study. They could even design studies testing the hypothesis that individuals possess a scientific instinct that renders actual knowledge of scientific conclusions unnecessary. But Trump would surely just respond that those scientists have a political agenda, and his instinct, acquired via his uncle, concludes those studies are fake.
I'm not going to bother.
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Trump says he has "natural instinct for science" when it comes to climate change (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
Oct 2018
OP
Oh no he didn't....it seems I say that to myself at least a few times each and every day.
dewsgirl
Oct 2018
#2
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)1. I need to go and throw up right now.
This man is a pox on the country.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)2. Oh no he didn't....it seems I say that to myself at least a few times each and every day.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)3. He's insane.
Botany
(70,581 posts)4. Science has nothing to do with instincts it has to do with the "scientific method"
It has to do with observations, experimentation, making a hypothesis based on observations,
results, and data from the experiments, testing your hypothesis, and seeing if the results of
the observations and experiments are repeatable. I forgot PEER REVIEW.
BTW sitting about 3 miles from me right now is Ohio State University's institute of Polar Studies
and they have millions and millions of data points from ice cores that go back 400,000 years
to study our climate and greenhouse gases.
kysrsoze
(6,023 posts)5. FFS.
Canoe52
(2,949 posts)6. and a very stable genius he is too