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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 06:18 AM Jun 2019

Where does your plastic go? Global investigation reveals America's dirty secret

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/17/recycled-plastic-america-global-crisis

Where does your plastic go? Global investigation reveals America's dirty secret

by Erin McCormick, Bennett Murray , Carmela Fonbuena , Leonie Kijewski, Gökçe Saraçoğlu , Jamie Fullerton, Alastair Gee, Charlotte Simmonds

Mon 17 Jun 2019 06.00 BST Last modified on Mon 17 Jun 2019 06.28 BST

What happens to your plastic after you drop it in a recycling bin? According to promotional materials from America’s plastics industry, it is whisked off to a factory where it is seamlessly transformed into something new.

This is not the experience of Nguyễn Thị Hồng Thắm, a 60-year-old Vietnamese mother of seven, living amid piles of grimy American plastic on the outskirts of Hanoi. Outside her home, the sun beats down on a Cheetos bag; aisle markers from a Walmart store; and a plastic bag from ShopRite, a chain of supermarkets in New Jersey, bearing a message urging people to recycle it. Tham is paid the equivalent of $6.50 a day to strip off the non-recyclable elements and sort what remains: translucent plastic in one pile, opaque in another.

A Guardian investigation has found that hundreds of thousands of tons of US plastic are being shipped every year to poorly regulated developing countries around the globe for the dirty, labor-intensive process of recycling. The consequences for public health and the environment are grim.

A team of Guardian reporters in 11 countries has found:
Last year, the equivalent of 68,000 shipping containers of American plastic recycling were exported from the US to developing countries that mismanage more than 70% of their own plastic waste.

The newest hotspots for handling US plastic recycling are some of the world’s poorest countries, including Bangladesh, Laos, Ethiopia and Senegal, offering cheap labor and limited environmental regulation.

In some places, like Turkey, a surge in foreign waste shipments is disrupting efforts to handle locally generated plastics.

With these nations overwhelmed, thousands of tons of waste plastic are stranded at home in the US, as we reveal in our story later this week.

These failures in the recycling system are adding to a growing sense of crisis around plastic, a wonder material that has enabled everything from toothbrushes to space helmets but is now found in enormous quantities in the oceans and has even been detected in the human digestive system.

Reflecting grave concerns around plastic waste, last month, 187 countries signed a treaty giving nations the power to block the import of contaminated or hard-to-recycle plastic trash. A few countries did not sign. One was the US.

A new Guardian series, United States of Plastic, will scrutinize the plastic crisis engulfing America and the world, publishing several more stories this week and continuing for the rest of 2019.
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Where does your plastic go? Global investigation reveals America's dirty secret (Original Post) nitpicker Jun 2019 OP
China stopped accepting it a year ago, and they hadn't been recycling for 3 years Recursion Jun 2019 #1
Your last statement is the godawful truth. llmart Jun 2019 #4
I meant more "global upper-middle class" Recursion Jun 2019 #5
I understand now. Yes, compared to most of the rest of the world we are all middle class in the US. llmart Jun 2019 #9
Yup Recursion Jun 2019 #11
Even cardboard has trouble Aussie105 Jun 2019 #2
Some does very well zipplewrath Jun 2019 #3
Great point Recursion Jun 2019 #6
Plastic is a by product zipplewrath Jun 2019 #8
Interesting post from the perspective of someone who has experience and knowledge. llmart Jun 2019 #7
Kamikatsu, Japan residents face a mind-boggling 45 separate categories for their garbage progree Jun 2019 #10

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. China stopped accepting it a year ago, and they hadn't been recycling for 3 years
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 07:53 AM
Jun 2019

The problem is there's just not a good way to recycle most consumer-grade plastic: it emits more carbon to repurpose it than to just make new plastic. Glass has the same problem, though glass can at least be reused in a way most plastic can't. Honestly all non-metal recycling as done currently is just to make middle class people feel better.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
4. Your last statement is the godawful truth.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:21 AM
Jun 2019

However, I'm not sure why you stated it's for the middle class because I think it's to make all Americans feel like they're actually doing something good for the environment. Americans really like to do the easy thing and then pat themselves on the back for even doing that. Ask them to do the difficult things to alleviate the problems we generate with our conspicuous consumption and they fight tooth and nail for their god given right to continue buying the cheap plastic crap from China that they could really do without.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. I meant more "global upper-middle class"
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:25 AM
Jun 2019

i.e., everybody in the US.

But, yeah: people will do all kinds of ridiculous things for a pat on the back, but will refuse the real issues like e.g. living more densely and using public transit.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
9. I understand now. Yes, compared to most of the rest of the world we are all middle class in the US.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:40 AM
Jun 2019

Don't get me started on the size of the houses they feel they have to own and furnish. As the family size has gotten smaller and smaller over the decades, and as less and less people live with extended family, why on earth are the houses bigger and bigger?

What we really have a problem with in the US is that we have separated ourselves more and more from other people so we don't have to learn how to live with, ride with, share with people who are "strangers". Americans like to tout the concept of rugged individualism when in fact it's more like selfishness and shortsightedness.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. Yup
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jun 2019

The Interstate Highway Act made us the country we are today, for better and worse, mostly for worse.

Until we can live closer together we're just rearranging deck chairs.

Aussie105

(5,403 posts)
2. Even cardboard has trouble
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:12 AM
Jun 2019

finding recyclers.

Melbourne, Australia: A recycling plant went up in flames. Turned out it wasn't being recycled, it was just being stored. Waiting for a recycling option that made financial sense. An option that never came.

A lot of it was dangerous chemicals, not stored properly, and the place wasn't licensed to store them anyway.

Huge clouds covered the surroundings. Creeks polluted, people with respiratory problems.

As far as plastic bags go. Do people remember the days before plastics? Soft drinks in glass bottles, no such thing as bottled water, when shopping you either brought your own (non plastic) bags, or the shop put your shopping in brown paper bags.

Local councils here provide you with recycling bins. One for garden waste and food scraps (gets composted) and another for solids like cardboard, newspaper, hard plastics.
Soft plastics are supposed to go to local supermarkets into a special bin. Supposedly recycled into plastic furniture.
Can't help but wonder how much of the recycling bins' contents is actually recycled or repurposed, or just stored, or sent to landfill.

The World is slowly chocking on the 'convenience' of plastics.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
3. Some does very well
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:21 AM
Jun 2019

Some plastics can be quite easily recycled. The problem is that it needs to be pretty "clean". And that's not just dirt and grease. It needs to be a single type of plastic. At a plastics factory I worked, we used recycled plastic as part of the production process. typically it was about 20%, with the balance being virgin material. That was mostly because the filters couldn't handle much more than that without clogging regularly. The exception was when we made those plastic trays that nurseries use to start small plants. We'd grind up just about anything and run it through in huge percentages. But predominately that was because the color requirements were nonexistent and imperfections were highly tolerable. But otherwise, the plastic has to be basically the EXACT color that the virgin material is. And clear plastic has incredibly high visual requirements that are created by the buyers.

Another part of the problem is that virgin material is cheap. That unfortunately means that there isn't much pressure on markets to use recycled plastic, nor is there much incentive to collect or generate "high quality" recycled content. This is one area where regulation could probably help by creating markets for both collecting and using high quality recycled material. A tax on virgin material would probably go a long way into making markets more interested in recycled "post consumer" content.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. Great point
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:27 AM
Jun 2019

Plastics can recycle very well but we use them in a way that makes that impossible. At least with glass you can reuse the vessel itself.

And, for the most depressing aspect of it, as a mentor of mine once said: if they're turning the oil into plastic, they at least aren't burning it. We might be better off with petroleum as a source of plastic than as a source of energy.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
8. Plastic is a by product
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:38 AM
Jun 2019

It may not be exactly true today, but plastics originally were created because after oil was refined into fuels, there was material left over. Research was funded looking for uses for this by product. Plastics was one of the results. That might not be strictly true today, but it was always what I thought would happen if we started recycling programs. If there was enough of the material floating around then sooner or later someone would find a use for it. Unfortunately, to date, little of consequence has been found. I suspect that is because plastic is so cheap to begin with.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
7. Interesting post from the perspective of someone who has experience and knowledge.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:32 AM
Jun 2019

Thanks! About twenty years ago our extension office offered a course in Environmental Stewardship similar to the Master Gardener classes. I signed up for the inaugural course and was absolutely fascinated by it. Since they were feeling their way as to how to design this course and what content to include, we were sort of guinea pigs. What they deemed would be more useful than just lectures and readings was to take the small class (I believe there were only ten people who signed up) on various field trips. I learned so much from those. One of the field trips was to our county's recycling facility. I had been recycling since the 70's but had no idea where that stuff went after it left my little red bin, but the trip showed me just how big an operation it was. This was back in the day when very few people in my neighborhood recycled and you had instructions as to how to prepare your items for recycling. I remember all the removing of labels, washing of cans and flattening them, separating the colored comics sections from the newspaper, checking the plastic for the #1 or #2 on the bottom, etc.

As a side note, we also toured a state of the art sewage treatment plant and as unappetizing as that may sound, it was one of the trips that stuck with me for the rest of my life. The course only had two subsequent classes before the state pulled funding for it (under a R governor of course).

progree

(10,909 posts)
10. Kamikatsu, Japan residents face a mind-boggling 45 separate categories for their garbage
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:01 AM
Jun 2019
Plastic, paper, metal? In Japan's Kamikatsu, sorting rubbish isn't that simple. Residents face a mind-boggling 45 separate categories for their garbage as the town aims to be "zero-waste" by 2020.

And that's not all: there isn't even trash collection. The 1,500 residents of the town in western Japan have to transport their waste themselves to a local facility.

More: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127128442 ( Thanks Jim__ )
which is excerpted from: https://phys.org/news/2019-06-japan-town-recycle.html

Mind boggling what's involved trying to recycle everything. I don't think most Americans have anywhere near the dedication for this, in fact I'm sure of it.
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