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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,135 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:41 PM Nov 2019

The environmental toll of cremating the dead

Over the past four years, cremations have surpassed burials as the most popular end-of-life option in the United States, according to the National Funeral Directors Association. At the same time, companies have been springing up touting creative things you can do with a loved one’s ashes, such as pressing them into a vinyl record, using them to create a marine reef, or having them compressed into diamonds.

Cremation—along with these creative ways to honor the dead—is often marketed as a more environmentally friendly option than traditional embalmment and casket burial. Concern for the environment, in addition to economic considerations, may be driving some of the increase in popularity.

“[For] some people, I bet that’s part of it,” says Nora Menkin, executive director of the Seattle-based People’s Memorial Association, which helps people choose end-of-life options.

But while it’s true that cremation is less harmful than pumping a body full of formaldehyde and burying it on top of concrete, there are still environmental effects to consider. Cremation requires a lot of fuel, and it results in millions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year—enough that some environmentalists are trying to rethink the process.

The average U.S. cremation, for instance, “takes up about the same amount of energy and has the same emissions as about two tanks of gas in an average car,” Menkin says. “So, it’s not nothing.”

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-environmental-toll-of-cremating-the-dead/ar-AAJSZs8?li=BBnb7Kz

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The environmental toll of cremating the dead (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 OP
It's still the best way to "go". TheCowsCameHome Nov 2019 #1
My state recently legalized "human composting". Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 #4
Oh, I think I'm going to have to pass on that Rorey Nov 2019 #8
In my State, the law requires embalming even in a cremation. No chance of being burned alive. Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #9
I had never heard of a state having a law like that. StevieM Nov 2019 #14
good grief evertonfc Nov 2019 #2
They can compost me California_Republic Nov 2019 #3
Your farts do not even come close to bovine farts angstlessk Nov 2019 #11
Plant a tree in the spot ashes are buried OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #5
My ashes are going to be sprinkled at sea. (eom) StevieM Nov 2019 #15
Body donation for me Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #6
That's what I told my family to do with my body Rorey Nov 2019 #7
After they are done with you, you are cremated. Kaleva Nov 2019 #12
Yeah, I know Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #13
Yep. My mother donated her body to the medical school in her city. After they were done, it was PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #16
Toast me, chemical me, what ever mitch96 Nov 2019 #10
Decomposing on the seafloor like a whale might work... hunter Nov 2019 #17

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,135 posts)
4. My state recently legalized "human composting".
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:48 PM
Nov 2019

That's a far greener way to go.

Overall, the process uses an eighth of the energy required for cremation and saves more than one metric ton of carbon dioxide for every individual who opts to use it.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/washington-first-state-allow-burial-method-human-composting-180972020/

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. Oh, I think I'm going to have to pass on that
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:09 PM
Nov 2019

The part where the "soil" is returned to the family is where I said, "Nope!" And then also the part about how particular types of compost aren't safe to use on just anything.


This past summer I had the experience of having an unattended death in my rental. I learned a whole lot about the decomposition process during the two months it took me to restore my little house. Cremation for me, and quickly. (Well, I hope they make sure I'm actually dead, of course.)

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. I had never heard of a state having a law like that.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 08:37 PM
Nov 2019

I guess it is good to know that they won't accidentally cremate me while I am still alive.

 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
2. good grief
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:44 PM
Nov 2019

I'm beginning to think getting up in the morning takes a toll on the environment. My environmental pass was taken due my vegetarian diet and increase in farting. They cross each other out

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
11. Your farts do not even come close to bovine farts
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:48 PM
Nov 2019

Of course getting up is going to effect the environment..shower vs bath. That's just a start.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
7. That's what I told my family to do with my body
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:59 PM
Nov 2019

If they'll take it, that is.

A lot of years ago I worked in a physical therapy office. In casual conversation I said that I wanted to donate my body to a medical school. One of the therapists thought it was a terrible idea because, as he said, they do disrespectful things. I still don't know why he thought that would bother me.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
16. Yep. My mother donated her body to the medical school in her city. After they were done, it was
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 01:07 AM
Nov 2019

cremated and the cremains returned to us. It took nine years, but we eventually scattered her ashes where she knew she wanted them scattered.

The down side of human composting is (for me at least) the time it takes. I visited a cemetery with a composting section not too long ago, and while it was peaceful and all that, I still wasn't sure what would be eventually done with the remains. I suppose if you have some kind of plot of land to do the composting on, you can eventually plow under what's left, and plant a crop or raise pigs or whatever.

Personally, I'll stick with cremation.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
17. Decomposing on the seafloor like a whale might work...
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 10:27 AM
Nov 2019
Dead Whales Make for an Underwater Feast

When whales decay the seafloor, their enormous carcasses give life to mysterious worlds inhabited by an assortment of bizarre creatures.

https://www.audubon.org/magazine/november-december-2009/dead-whales-make-underwater-feast


Alas, I've probably collected a lot of toxic chemicals in my lifetime.

Heh, maybe we could cremate people using nuclear power.

And there's always the Soylent Green option.

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