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hatrack

(59,587 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:20 AM Dec 2019

Politicians Knew 100 Years Ago That The Colorado River Was Being Overallocated - They Didn't Care

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As conventional wisdom has it, the states were relying on bad data when they divided up the water. But a new book challenges that narrative. Turn-of-the-century hydrologists actually had a pretty good idea of how much water the river could spare, water experts John Fleck and Eric Kuhn write in Science be Dammed: How Ignoring Inconvenient Science Drained the Colorado River. They make the case that politicians and water managers in the early 1900s ignored evidence about the limits of the river’s resources.

In 1916, six years before the Colorado River Compact was signed, Eugene Clyde LaRue, a young hydrologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, concluded that the Colorado River’s supplies were “not sufficient to irrigate all the irrigable lands lying within the basin.” Other hydrologists at the agency and researchers studying the issue came to the same conclusion. Alas, their warnings were not heeded. I caught up with Fleck and Kuhn to learn why LaRue and others were ignored and what history can teach us about the decisions being made on the river today. This interview has been condensed and edited for clarity.

Q. When did you both realize that the conventional wisdom about the framers of Colorado River law using bad data was incorrect? Was there an “aha” moment?

A. Fleck: The “aha” moment for me was when I found the transcripts of LaRue’s 1925 congressional testimony, when he said, as clear as could be, that there’s not enough water for this thing they were trying to do. It erased any doubt I had that the reports were too technical and people didn’t really understand them. He was there testifying before Congress, and they just chose to ignore it. None of the senators followed up. They were clearly choosing to willfully ignore what LaRue was saying.

Kuhn: He wasn’t alone. There was USGS hydrologist Herman Stabler, an engineering professor from the University of Arizona, and a very high-level commission appointed by Congress, headed by a famous Army Corps of Engineers’ lieutenant general, and they came to the same conclusion. The surprise to me was how widespread the information was among the experts at the time. There was never even enough water in the system for what we wanted to do before climate change became an issue.

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https://grist.org/climate/politicians-knew-the-inconvenient-truth-about-the-colorado-river-100-years-ago-and-ignored-it/

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Politicians Knew 100 Years Ago That The Colorado River Was Being Overallocated - They Didn't Care (Original Post) hatrack Dec 2019 OP
they knew 100yrs ago it would not be their problem to deal with beachbumbob Dec 2019 #1
Bingo! Throck Dec 2019 #2
not only politicians, most businesses and majority of people, and its often less than a year beachbumbob Dec 2019 #3
Society has become pretty impulsive. Throck Dec 2019 #4
main key to consumerism beachbumbob Dec 2019 #6
As a kid, my parents got us stuff we "needed" for Christmas, not "wanted". Throck Dec 2019 #7
They make everyone happy mountain grammy Dec 2019 #5

Throck

(2,520 posts)
7. As a kid, my parents got us stuff we "needed" for Christmas, not "wanted".
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:35 PM
Dec 2019

Underwear, socks.............. Lincoln Logs, Erector Set! Toys without batteries if we got them. Pre-Lego days!

When we were older my brothers and I got Craftsmen tools. I think my dad was setting us up to work on the house.

Somehow the world took a turn into rampant consumerism.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
5. They make everyone happy
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:54 AM
Dec 2019

Making false promises with no worries about future impacts because we’ll be gone. How very human, and especially American.

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