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douglas9

(4,359 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:22 PM Apr 2020

Climate Experts Are Calling Michael Moore's New Film "Dangerous, Misleading, and Destructive"

They want Planet of the Humans to be taken down.

A new Michael Moore-produced documentary that takes aim at the supposed hypocrisy of the green movement is “dangerous, misleading and destructive” and should be removed from public viewing, according to an assortment of climate scientists and environmental campaigners.

The film, Planet of the Humans, was released on the eve of Earth Day last week by its producer, Michael Moore, the baseball cap-wearing documentarian known for Fahrenheit 9/11 and Bowling for Columbine. Describing itself as a “full-frontal assault on our sacred cows,” the film argues that electric cars and solar energy are unreliable and rely upon fossil fuels to function. It also attacks figures including Al Gore for bolstering corporations that push flawed technologies over real solutions to the climate crisis.

Planet of the Humans has provoked a furious reaction from scientists and campaigners, however, who have called for it be taken down. One distributor, Films for Action, temporarily took down the film after describing it as “full of misinformation,” though they later reinstated it, saying they did not want accusations of censorship to give the film “more power and mystique than it deserves.” A free version on YouTube has been viewed more than 3 million times.

A letter written by Josh Fox, who made the documentary Gasland, and signed by various scientists and activists, has urged the removal of “shockingly misleading and absurd” film for making false claims about renewable energy. Planet of the Humans “trades in debunked fossil fuel industry talking points” that question the affordability and reliability of solar and wind energy, the letter states, pointing out that these alternatives are now cheaper to run than fossil fuels such as coal.

Michael Mann, a climate scientist and signatory to Fox’s letter, said the film includes “various distortions, half-truths and lies” and that the filmmakers “have done a grave disservice to us and the planet by promoting climate change inactivist tropes and talking points.” The film’s makers did not respond to questions over whether it will be pulled down.

Planet of the Humans has been shown at Moore’s Traverse City film festival, where the producer said it was “perhaps the most urgent film we’ve shown in the 15-year history of our film festival.” Jeff Gibbs, who wrote and directed the film, has suggested that unrestrained economic and population growth should be the target of environmentalists’ efforts rather than technological fixes.

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2020/04/climate-experts-are-calling-michael-moores-new-film-dangerous-misleading-and-destructive/


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Climate Experts Are Calling Michael Moore's New Film "Dangerous, Misleading, and Destructive" (Original Post) douglas9 Apr 2020 OP
Well, they go this part right Boomer Apr 2020 #1
We need to be "growing" our economy in sustainable ways while we reduce our population. hunter Apr 2020 #2
No footprint is small enough... Boomer Apr 2020 #4
That's one reason to support solar PV Finishline42 Apr 2020 #5
MM just lost me. Duppers Apr 2020 #3

Boomer

(4,170 posts)
1. Well, they go this part right
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:36 PM
Apr 2020
Jeff Gibbs, who wrote and directed the film, has suggested that unrestrained economic and population growth should be the target of environmentalists’ efforts rather than technological fixes.

Any discussion about fighting climate change that does not include aggressive population control is simply irrelevant. Same for our capitalist goal of growing the economy.

hunter

(38,338 posts)
2. We need to be "growing" our economy in sustainable ways while we reduce our population.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 05:04 PM
Apr 2020

It's not magic. No technological fixes required.

Birth control is an existing technology and ought to be universally available. Realistic sex education ought to be mandatory.

There are plenty of nice things to spend money on that have a very small environmental footprint, and plenty of causes striving to make this world a better place to give money to.









Boomer

(4,170 posts)
4. No footprint is small enough...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 07:39 PM
Apr 2020

No footprint is small enough given the current size of earth's population. There is no such thing as "sustainable growth" since we're overshot the level of even a sustainable steady state, but no one wants to hear that. We don't have the luxury of waiting decades for a minority of willing individuals to stop having babies. What is required for substantive mitigation is rapid, massive reduction of population numbers and our use of resources.

Quite obviously, that's not going to happen, certainly not voluntarily.

And no, I'm not advocating for universal genocide. For one thing, I'm pretty certain that it's already too late; feedback loops have grabbed climate change out of our control. As a species, we're dead-man-walking, so we might as well let people play out their lives as the last doomed generations.

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
5. That's one reason to support solar PV
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:56 PM
Apr 2020

The warranty is the key. 80% output after 25 years. Straight line degradation of less than 1/2% per year. They will still be making electricity 75-100 years from now.

So after CoVid-19 mutates and decimates the human population (or the next virus does) there will still be electricity to power fridges to keep our beer cold...

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