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hatrack

(59,593 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:58 AM Jun 2012

USGS - NM Mountain Forests Not Regrowing After Fires In Past 15 Years; Grass, Shrubs Replacing Them

When the smoke finally clears and new plant life pokes up from the scorched earth after the wildfires raging in the southern Rockies, what emerges will look radically different than what was there just a few weeks ago. According to Craig Allen, a research ecologist with the United States Geological Survey in Los Alamos, N.M., forests in the region have not been regenerating after the vast wildfires that have been raging for the last decade and a half.

Dr. Allen, who runs the Jemez Mountains Field Station at Bandelier National Monument, says those forests are burning into oblivion and grasslands and shrub lands are taking their place. “Rising temperature is going to drive our forests off the mountains,” he said.

During two presentations at environmental conferences in Aspen, over the weekend and on Monday morning, Dr. Allen sketched a bleak picture of how climate change is redrawing Southwestern landscapes.

Using data from tree ring studies, scientists have reconstructed a history of fires in the Southwest. The wildfires of the past were frequent and massive, but they stayed close to the ground and mainly helped prevent overcrowding. Take 1748. “Every mountain range we studied in the region was burning that year,” Dr. Allen said. “But those were surface fires, not destroying the forest but just keeping an open setting.” Cyclical wildfires were the norm.

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http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/goodbye-to-mountain-forests/?ref=earth

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USGS - NM Mountain Forests Not Regrowing After Fires In Past 15 Years; Grass, Shrubs Replacing Them (Original Post) hatrack Jun 2012 OP
We're terraforming our planet, but we don't know into what. snot Jun 2012 #1
McKibben had a good quote: ". . . like pouring poison into an ant farm and 'observing the effects'" hatrack Jun 2012 #2
Its starting to accelerate bahrbearian Jun 2012 #3
Who needs trees anyway?? Saint Ronnie said they just pollute the air. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #4
And with deserts, will come famine. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #5
We'll have a nice view up in the San Juan NF, once we get rid of all the damned trees. bluedigger Jun 2012 #6
"Seeking to preserve existing systems is futile, he said." NickB79 Jun 2012 #7
Fuck. joshcryer Jun 2012 #8
Between fires, bark beetles and drought, it's not looking good IDemo Jul 2012 #9

hatrack

(59,593 posts)
2. McKibben had a good quote: ". . . like pouring poison into an ant farm and 'observing the effects'"
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jun 2012

nt

CrispyQ

(36,533 posts)
5. And with deserts, will come famine.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jun 2012

Oh, who was it - some big oil exec, I think, who stated recently that engineers will find solutions to the global warming problem. The old 'human ingenuity has always saved us in the past so it will always do so in the future" mentality.

We are so friggin' arrogant!

NickB79

(19,274 posts)
7. "Seeking to preserve existing systems is futile, he said."
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jun 2012

No more sugarcoating it, then. The Western forests are fucked.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
9. Between fires, bark beetles and drought, it's not looking good
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 09:39 AM
Jul 2012

Bark Beetle Deforestation near Lake Arrowhead, San Bernardino National Forest, California

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