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Related: About this forumIce melt found across 97 percent of Greenland, satellites show
Three satellites found that 97 percent of Greenland -- the land mass second only to Antarctica for its volume of ice -- underwent a thaw never before seen in 33 years of satellite tracking, NASA reported Tuesday.
Satellite experts at first didn't trust their readings, especially since they showed an incredible acceleration. Over four days, Greenland's ice sheet -- which covers 683,000 square miles -- went from 40 percent in thaw to nearly entirely in thaw.
"This was so extraordinary that at first I questioned the result: Was this real or was it due to a data error?" Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena, Calif., said in NASA's statement about the findings.
Scientists on the ground in Greenland had been reporting an unusually warm summer thaw, including damage at a snow airfield and strong runoff threatening a bridge, Tom Wagner, who manages NASA's ice research programs, told NBC News.
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longship
(40,416 posts)We're talking serious ocean level increases with this. It will take a while, but apparently not as long as was earlier forecasts indicated.
Tipping points anybody?
R&K
phantom power
(25,966 posts)liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)proud patriot
(100,707 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Got to be something quite substantial for a change like that in 4 days.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)The question is about recovery though, it's always about recovery, and something like this is going to have feedbacks.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)the feedback will be lakes forming until cracks open in the areas surrounding glaciers. The water flooding down to the bottom acts like WD40 causing accelerated slip.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Arctic sea ice is going to be gone in the summer by 2020 at the latest (best guess is closer to 2013-2015). once that happens there will be a significant amount of solar absorption which will just cause things to cascade further.
It's a worst case scenario that no model predicted.
The best we can hope for is that the melt relaxes and the arctic sea ice recovers, but it's simply only a matter of time. The statistics don't lie: https://sites.google.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/piomas
We're fucked and yes I know I sound like an alarmist here. But I take that designation proudly.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Also inevitable.
Nederland
(9,976 posts)Not really surprising, given that the models suck.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Nederland
(9,976 posts)They under estimated sea ice loss, over estimated temperature rise, under estimated CO2 rise, and both over and under estimated sea level rise depending on which IPCC report you are looking at.
In other words, they suck.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts).
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...and that the last one was a knock-on effect of a large Volcano (Krakatoa maybe??) spewing ash into the atmosphere and upsetting things...
OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I haven't seen mention of it yet.