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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:54 PM Aug 2012

Dr. Strangeice - or - How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Global Warming Bomb

So I've been wondering how the Corporate Media would explain away the melting of the Arctic. Hard to add the obligatory “but of course, this event can’t be directly attributed to Global Warming” disclaimer to this story. Well, I'm getting my answer:

Dr. Strangelove - or - How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Global Warming Bomb

Why we should look to the Arctic

(CNN) -- Most Americans think of the Arctic as an icy, distant place; beautiful, remote and teeming with wildlife, but unrelated to their daily lives. Nothing could be further from the truth.

This summer, big doings on America's northern doorstep will have enormous consequences to the economic, strategic and environmental future of the nation. Yet we are unprepared for the challenges and opportunities.

What happens in the Arctic as ice melts there could soon cheapen the cost of the gas you buy and products you purchase from Asia. It could help make the nation more energy independent. It could draw our leaders into a conflict over undersea territory. It is already challenging Washington to protect millions of square miles filled with some of the most magnificent wildlife on Earth, and native people whose culture and way of life is at risk as a squall line of development sweeps across the once inaccessible top of the planet.

....

Their concerns are not just local ones but should engage every American. If you care about the environment, if you care about gas prices, if you care about where our soldiers and navy may serve next, if you want the U.S. to remain strong and dominant in the world, look to the north this summer.

Look to the Arctic. That's where much of our common future is about to play out.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/reiss-arctic-drilling/index.html?iref=allsearch
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Dr. Strangeice - or - How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Global Warming Bomb (Original Post) Junkdrawer Aug 2012 OP
The beach will be closer. Downwinder Aug 2012 #1
No it won't Nederland Aug 2012 #3
Greenland Melting Breaks Record Four Weeks Before Season's End NickB79 Aug 2012 #5
The Greenland Ice Sheet is huge Nederland Aug 2012 #7
And we thought the Arctic wouldn't melt until 2050 or beyond NickB79 Aug 2012 #11
The reason the ice is melting? RobertEarl Aug 2012 #12
Also when the cold water warms up the volume of the sea increases Javaman Aug 2012 #16
How do you know that? Arctic sea ice wasn't supposed to melt... joshcryer Aug 2012 #13
The Greenland ice sheet will take thousands of years to melt.. truebrit71 Aug 2012 #18
Put a fifty pound block of ice on your glass, Downwinder Aug 2012 #6
If the ice it floating like the Arctic ice, the table will remain dry (nt) Nederland Aug 2012 #8
And if it is on top like the Greenland ice? Downwinder Aug 2012 #9
It will increase sea-levels around the globe... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #19
Then take that same glass of water and heat it up... Javaman Aug 2012 #17
Maybe not, but the food will be scarcer GliderGuider Aug 2012 #10
Yeah, we're going to get first dibs, a lot of people are going to hurt. joshcryer Aug 2012 #14
So this fucker sees it as an opportunity for Big Oil to further stuff its coffers... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #2
But he's REAL worried about the Inuit.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #4
Instead of snowbirds there will be sunbirds. Downwinder Aug 2012 #15

Nederland

(9,976 posts)
7. The Greenland Ice Sheet is huge
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

Unlike Arctic ice, which in a few years is in danger of disappearing entirely during the summer months, the Greenland ice sheet will take thousands of years to melt. What things will look like by then is beyond anyone's ability to predict.

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
11. And we thought the Arctic wouldn't melt until 2050 or beyond
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:24 PM
Aug 2012

Only ten years ago.

The phrase "faster than expected" is being thrown around this forum on a daily basis. I see no reason to trust that the Greenland ice cap will last as long as predicted.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. The reason the ice is melting?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:06 PM
Aug 2012

The water temperature is rising.

The melting ice has been cooling the water that flows through the Arctic. When the ice is gone, the ocean temperatures will rise even faster. Also the frozen hydrate will un-freeze and release gasses into the atmosphere.

This was all forecasted many, many years ago. Via Science.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
13. How do you know that? Arctic sea ice wasn't supposed to melt...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:28 PM
Aug 2012

...until the midcentry wasn't it?

And yet we're going to see it in the next 5-10 years max.

Seems like the scientists like to underestimate a lot.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
18. The Greenland ice sheet will take thousands of years to melt..
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:28 PM
Aug 2012

Umm...not so much...It is rapidly increasing every year...

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
19. It will increase sea-levels around the globe...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:29 PM
Aug 2012

..but I doubt the person you asked will answer that question...

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
17. Then take that same glass of water and heat it up...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:13 AM
Aug 2012

then tell me if there water on the table.

it seems no one takes into account thermal expansion.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
10. Maybe not, but the food will be scarcer
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:19 PM
Aug 2012

and waaaay more expensive. Too bad, so sad for all those people in the world without enough Monsantobux...

The article in the OP so doesn't get it.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
14. Yeah, we're going to get first dibs, a lot of people are going to hurt.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:39 PM
Aug 2012

It's not good. They say "oh the grain belt will just move north."

Yeah, after forest fires burn down all the northern forests and the ground recoups.

In 20 years.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
2. So this fucker sees it as an opportunity for Big Oil to further stuff its coffers...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 05:46 PM
Aug 2012

There aren't enough in the world to express just how much "way to miss the whole point you fucking dumb-ass" there is in that article...

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
4. But he's REAL worried about the Inuit....
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:25 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:17 PM - Edit history (1)

You KNOW the outcome:

Lovely "untouched" villages that will sell trinkets and perform dances for the new Tourist trade.

"Oh Martha, let's take an Arctic cruise. But let's get there in May or June before the winter ice melts and the Black Flies are too bad."

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