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So I've been wondering how the Corporate Media would explain away the melting of the Arctic. Hard to add the obligatory but of course, this event cant be directly attributed to Global Warming disclaimer to this story. Well, I'm getting my answer:
Dr. Strangelove - or - How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Global Warming Bomb
(CNN) -- Most Americans think of the Arctic as an icy, distant place; beautiful, remote and teeming with wildlife, but unrelated to their daily lives. Nothing could be further from the truth.
This summer, big doings on America's northern doorstep will have enormous consequences to the economic, strategic and environmental future of the nation. Yet we are unprepared for the challenges and opportunities.
What happens in the Arctic as ice melts there could soon cheapen the cost of the gas you buy and products you purchase from Asia. It could help make the nation more energy independent. It could draw our leaders into a conflict over undersea territory. It is already challenging Washington to protect millions of square miles filled with some of the most magnificent wildlife on Earth, and native people whose culture and way of life is at risk as a squall line of development sweeps across the once inaccessible top of the planet.
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Their concerns are not just local ones but should engage every American. If you care about the environment, if you care about gas prices, if you care about where our soldiers and navy may serve next, if you want the U.S. to remain strong and dominant in the world, look to the north this summer.
Look to the Arctic. That's where much of our common future is about to play out.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/reiss-arctic-drilling/index.html?iref=allsearch
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Won't have to worry about Fla. elections.
Gondolas in New York.
Nederland
(9,976 posts)Arctic Ice is already floating in the water and therefore its volume is already included in the total volume of the ocean.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/If_an_ice_cube_melts_in_a_glass_of_water_does_the_level_of_the_water_in_the_glass_increase_decrease_or_stay_the_same
NickB79
(19,257 posts)Nederland
(9,976 posts)Unlike Arctic ice, which in a few years is in danger of disappearing entirely during the summer months, the Greenland ice sheet will take thousands of years to melt. What things will look like by then is beyond anyone's ability to predict.
NickB79
(19,257 posts)Only ten years ago.
The phrase "faster than expected" is being thrown around this forum on a daily basis. I see no reason to trust that the Greenland ice cap will last as long as predicted.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)The water temperature is rising.
The melting ice has been cooling the water that flows through the Arctic. When the ice is gone, the ocean temperatures will rise even faster. Also the frozen hydrate will un-freeze and release gasses into the atmosphere.
This was all forecasted many, many years ago. Via Science.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)do to thermal expansion.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...until the midcentry wasn't it?
And yet we're going to see it in the next 5-10 years max.
Seems like the scientists like to underestimate a lot.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Umm...not so much...It is rapidly increasing every year...
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)let it melt and see if the table gets wet.
Nederland
(9,976 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)..but I doubt the person you asked will answer that question...
Javaman
(62,532 posts)then tell me if there water on the table.
it seems no one takes into account thermal expansion.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)and waaaay more expensive. Too bad, so sad for all those people in the world without enough Monsantobux...
The article in the OP so doesn't get it.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)It's not good. They say "oh the grain belt will just move north."
Yeah, after forest fires burn down all the northern forests and the ground recoups.
In 20 years.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)There aren't enough in the world to express just how much "way to miss the whole point you fucking dumb-ass" there is in that article...
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:17 PM - Edit history (1)
You KNOW the outcome:
Lovely "untouched" villages that will sell trinkets and perform dances for the new Tourist trade.
"Oh Martha, let's take an Arctic cruise. But let's get there in May or June before the winter ice melts and the Black Flies are too bad."