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wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:03 PM Nov 2012

Hedge fund manager (with $100B assets) suggests climate scientists "be arrested if necessary"

[div style="float: left; padding-right: 10px;"]"I have yet to meet a climate scientist who does not believe that global warming is a worse problem than they thought a few years ago. The seriousness of this change is not appreciated by politicians and the public. The scientific world carefully measures the speed with which we approach the cliff and will, no doubt, carefully measure our rate of fall. But it is not doing enough to stop it. I am a specialist in investment bubbles, not climate science. But the effects of climate change can only exacerbate the ecological trouble I see reflected in the financial markets — soaring commodity prices and impending shortages.

My firm warned of vastly inflated Japanese equities in 1989 — the grandmother of all bubbles — US growth stocks in 2000 and everything risky in late 2007. The usual mix of investor wishful thinking and dangerous and cynical encouragement from industrial vested interests made these bubbles possible. Prices of global raw materials are now rising fast. This does not constitute a bubble, however, but is a genuine paradigm shift, perhaps the most important economic change since the Industrial Revolution. Simply, we are running out.

The price index of 33 important commodities declined by 70% over the 100 years up to 2002 — an enormous help to industrialized countries in getting rich. Only one commodity, oil, had been flat until 1972 and then, with the advent of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, it began to rise. But since 2002, prices of almost all the other commodities, plus oil, tripled in six years; all without a world war and without much comment. Even if prices fell tomorrow by 20% they would still on average have doubled in 10 years, the equivalent of a 7% annual rise."

http://www.nature.com/news/be-persuasive-be-brave-be-arrested-if-necessary-1.11796

A one-percenter who gets it.

"Jeremy Grantham Says Capitalism May Destroy Us All

Jeremy Grantham, the well-known value investor and co-founder of the asset management firm GMO, just issued a long quarterly letter to investors in which he worries for the future of capitalism. He writes that

Capitalism has gone through a Darwinistic series of trials and errors, which still continues. For the time being, capitalism has tuned itself to rapid growth at almost any cost. . . . The reader can easily see how a corporation’s outlook on potential future damage might be a painful mismatch with that of ordinary individuals and society at large. The consequences of this not only can be disastrous but probably will be.

He goes on to add that 'it is quickly apparent that capitalism in general has no sense of ethics or conscience. Whatever the Supreme Court may think, it is not a person,' and, 'It gets worse, for what capitalism has always had is money with which to try to buy influence. Today’s version of U.S. capitalism has died and gone to heaven on this issue.' But 'of all the technical weaknesses in capitalism, though, probably the most immediately dangerous is its absolute inability to process the finiteness of resources and the mathematical impossibility of maintaining rapid growth in physical output.'"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/03/01/jeremy-grantham-says-capitalism-may-destroy-us-all/
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Hedge fund manager (with $100B assets) suggests climate scientists "be arrested if necessary" (Original Post) wtmusic Nov 2012 OP
So we have to do our own research to find out what your title refers to? bluedigger Nov 2012 #1
No, you just have to read the post and the attached link. wtmusic Nov 2012 #3
There are two attached links. bluedigger Nov 2012 #4
Waah wtmusic Nov 2012 #5
Damn you, AND your inconvenient truth! Kennah Nov 2012 #6
I'd rather arrest all the hedge fund managers. That would do much more good. Scuba Nov 2012 #2
Arresting hedge fund managers is necessary. Needs to be done. phantom power Nov 2012 #9
Please change the title, it's highly misleading. n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #7
Warning: some reading may be required. wtmusic Nov 2012 #8
Okay, but the title is still misleading. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #10

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
8. Warning: some reading may be required.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:13 PM
Nov 2012

From link:

"It is crucial that scientists take more career risks and sound a more realistic, more desperate, note on the global-warming problem. Younger scientists are obsessed by thoughts of tenure, so it is probably up to older, senior and retired scientists to do the heavy lifting. Be arrested if necessary. This is not only the crisis of your lives — it is also the crisis of our species’ existence. I implore you to be brave."

I don't apologize, but instead welcome you to just not click.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
10. Okay, but the title is still misleading.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:29 PM
Nov 2012

Some people may get the wrong impression of this before they read the article, which is why I think you should change the title.

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