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Related: About this forumMore Forward Thinking From Detroit: Chrysler's New Line Of 6.4 Liter Muscle Cars - $40-45K
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They all feature the carried-over 6.4-litre Hemi V8 engine, boasting 470 horsepower, 470 pound-feet of torque and cylinder-deactivation technology that permits an EPA-certified highway rating of 23mpg.
Ballistic cloth inserts that debuted on the 2013 SRT Viper are applied to all three cars, and some classic paint colors make a return. Hemi Orange, TorRed and Plum Crazy join the existing palate of silver, white, gray, blue and black. The Challenger offers unique Phantom Black Tri-coat Pearl and Redline Tri-coat Pearl for 2013.
Both Dodge models wear 392 badging, representing their engine displacement in cubic inches, while the Chrysler opts for a more Continental 6.4L badge.
All three cars are slated to reach dealers this summer. The Challenger SRT8 is priced from $39,990, the Charger SRT8 Super Bee is $42,990 and the Chrysler 300 SRT8 is $44,900 all inclusive of $995 destination charges. In the event those prices seem a little too dear, Dodge feels your pain, which is why the brand has tarted up a base Challenger with the R/T Redline package and pegged it at $32,985. The Redline package adds 20-inch black chrome wheels and a lowered performance suspension to the base cars 5.7-litre Hemi V8, producing 375-horsepower and 410 pound-feet of torque. Either a 6-speed manual or a 5-speed automatic transmission is available.
Another $2,000 buys the Redline Plus package, which adds Nappa leather seats, seat heaters, a 276-watt Boston Acoustics six-speaker sound system, rear park assist and remote start, among other bits.
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http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20130207-chryslers-heavy-metal
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Sounds like fun is getting a bit more fuel friendly!
Mopar151
(9,989 posts)So why the snark? Not enough slave labor content? Failure to use sufficent Chinese materials?
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:02 PM - Edit history (1)
but it can go go from zero to highway speeds one second faster than a Prius in case you ever have the opportunity to do that without 1000 other cars blocking the way.
See http://autos.nydailynews.com/l/2151/2013-Dodge-Challenger-SRT8-392
The COMBINED city/highway mileage is 18.5. That means the city MPG is more like 14. That is no better than a Hummer for Chrissake.
hatrack
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NickB79
(19,253 posts)I had a Dodge Charger as a loaner car for a day when our Kia Rondo cross-over/van/station wagon vehicle needed work at the dealership. My daughter was 1 yr old at the time.
Do you have any idea how hard it was to get her carseat installed in the backseat of that thing? I needed two sales associates to get the thing properly latched in; there was almost no room to move around. Thank god I didn't need to pick up anything more than a few bags of groceries that day.
Functionally equal to a minivan my ass.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I guess we need to just tax the hell out of horsepower or fossil fuel.
safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)Much of our high efficient tech has been from high performance research.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)The research for high performance, for racing, for efficiency, or just for the sake of research, would carry on under a higher efficiency standards climate.
safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)but that doesn't throw out motor sports.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)"Consumer Reports isn't letting up on its testing of fuel efficiency claims for various vehicles. According to the publication, small turbocharged engines aren't delivering on the fuel efficiency claims by the manufacturers.
Small displacement turbocharged engines have become common in a variety of vehicles in place of larger displacement, naturally aspirated engines. The claim by the automotive manufacturers is that the small displacement turbocharged engines offer the same power as larger displacement engines and improved fuel efficiency.
Consumer Reports, however, states that in its real world testing many vehicles with turbocharged engines aren't as efficient as the manufacturers claim. The publication recently tested the 1.6-liter EcoBoost in a Ford Fusion and found that the turbocharged version has a slower 0-to-60 mph time than its competitors and achieved only 25 mpg in testing, making it among the worst for fuel efficiency in the recent crop of family sedans."
http://www.dailytech.com/Consumer+Reports+Small+Turbo+Engines+Dont+Meet+Efficiency+Claims/article29826.htm
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)Nothing explains it but selfishness and image-maintenance, and the fact we can't go back 20 or 30 years and work harder on efficiency.
Our species deserves how we're killing our own future. It just breaks my heart we'll take out so many animals in the great f-up.
frylock
(34,825 posts)I'd rather people buy American muscle rather than spend their cash on European supercars.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)and bitch about the cost of gas when they don't have enough money to buy the groceries and get the kids to the Dentist.
These are not fine sports cars for the motoring enthusiast. They are redneck specials.