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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:51 PM Feb 2013

Climate change abolitionists: who is fighting for a more sustainable world?

Here we have a selection of climate change abolitionists, those engaging in an uphill battle to challenge the broken systems that threaten our survival. As you can see, we've left eighteen spaces blank - these are for your suggestions.

Put forward your climate change abolitionists in the comments section below, email them or tweet us @GuardianSustBiz. You can do this until Wednesday 6 March and shortly after we'll use your suggestions to fill the empty spaces.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/sustainable-business/interactive/climate-change-abolitionists-fighting-sustainable-world#start-of-comments

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Climate change abolitionists: who is fighting for a more sustainable world? (Original Post) octoberlib Feb 2013 OP
This is neat. I wonder who will be the other 18 squares. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #1
A few more of those already listed kristopher Feb 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author CRH Feb 2013 #3
Why not David Wasdell, Kevin Anderson, Dan Miller, ... CRH Feb 2013 #4
Looks like a damned fine list to me, and I am not "uninformed". kristopher Feb 2013 #5
yeah, and I shouldn't minimize their contribution, ... CRH Mar 2013 #6
I think I need to be better informed. octoberlib Mar 2013 #7

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
1. This is neat. I wonder who will be the other 18 squares.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:08 PM
Feb 2013

Some ideas.

I would nominate Senator Sheldon Whitehouse. He's given all those speeches trying to raise alarm among the politicians.


Other ideas: Kumi Naidoo from Greenpeace, Naomi Klein(she's working on a climate change book I think), and the people doing the pipeline blockades in Texas and BC.

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CRH

(1,553 posts)
4. Why not David Wasdell, Kevin Anderson, Dan Miller, ...
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:03 PM
Feb 2013

on that list, and then, I might pay attention. So far only the most palatable for the uninformed, make that list with exceptions of Hansen. Why not just print the IPCC's faintest criers of the emergency, and toss in a little skeptical science pap. To go into the systemic problems we face, try the people who have bucked the politically diluted consensus, stood fast, when few dared; try the people in the title of this post. They are the who's, ahead of the curve.

CRH

(1,553 posts)
6. yeah, and I shouldn't minimize their contribution, ...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:22 AM
Mar 2013

even though much of the science has been soft peddled. It is easy to be swept along in consensus and the message diluted. It is also easy to be limited by those who would brand a Cassandra, an 'extremist', and diminish an audience.

It is hard to accept for over one hundred years, some scientists knew about the greenhouse effect. It was on television in the 50's, Frank Capra's, The Unchained Goddess. It was encouraged teaching, in some high school science classes. Then things began to change.

In the years that followed a debate raged between global warming and global cooling. All this time scientists were pointing out continental glaciers were receding and sea ice was melting.

Then in the late eighties most scientists began to see the greenhouse effect for what it was. Formidable head winds from industry and politics began to temper and delay the message. And the pressures to join international research into a consensus easily controlled by funding, damped the urgency and the message.

Now after four reports from the IPCC the message is still muted. A few walked away from the official international version, not because of the research and science, but instead because the editing and compilation of the findings have been politicized for economic status quo. Now a few find their voice again, after many years of allowing the understatement of the science to which they contributed. And still, there is a pretense there is time to build our way to solutions, invent our way to maintenance of our status quo, rather than drastically curtailing the lifestyle and expectations responsible for our crisis. Most of the voices continue to try to manufacture hope from mitigations not possible using pathways and models obsolete and/or not credible.

A very few, have refused the charade, have tried to expose the obsolescence of the message, and the urgency of extreme remedies for an extreme crisis. We can call them doomers, say they are shrill in their message, but can no longer deny the foundation of their urgency. The planet is melting, the methane is seeping, the corral is bleaching; the time for polite, long past.

David Wasdell, Kevin Anderson, Dan miller, and a few others, stood in the face of institutional muting of the science and message. They became the unwavering pillars of the inconvenient truth that is our plight, not the rosy scenarios of others' economic dreams.

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