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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 10:09 AM Jan 2012

The Essentials for the Necessary Transition to a Renewable Energy Economy

http://www.alternet.org/economy/153704/the_essentials_for_the_necessary_transition_to_a_renewable_energy_economy/

Fossil fuels are going to disappear, whether we like it or not. Petroleum, natural gas, and coal are becoming scarcer, harder to extract and a greater danger to the global climate. If we proceed with business-as-usual, energy companies will take advantage of increasing scarcity to dominate the world economy by vacuuming up more money from the 99%. They will be able to ally with military and financial institutions to construct an energy-military-financial complex that could eventually reduce most of the rest of us to a form of debt peonage. On the other hand, if we could possibly elect a government that does what governments do best – build infrastructure – we can avoid a world of global warming and economic collapse by building enough wind farms, solar panels, and geothermal systems to power our economy and ignite a sustainable, broad-based period of economic growth. Of course, this will require a sea-change in the direction of the political system, along the lines of the Occupy movement, but there is too much at stake to throw up our hands in despair.

The unfolding energy drama presents progressives with several dilemmas. Some are suspicious that oil scarcity can be used as a ruse by the oil companies and speculators to spike prices. Roger Altman recently argued that a larger supply of fossil fuels will lead to less international tension. More generally, progressives sometimes fear that advocating for less oil use will be seen by the public as an attack on the American Dream of a car in every garage and a single family home for every family.

But in addition to problems of scarcity and extraction, fossil fuels are bringing us towards extremely dangerous climate change. We need to have some answers or else the Right will simply keep up with the chant of “Drill baby drill.” It's time to counter with, “Build, build, build!"
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The Essentials for the Necessary Transition to a Renewable Energy Economy (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2012 OP
Hmm. There's lots of coal Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #1
"Dirty fuels Create an Unsustainable economy ... 4) Nukes " kristopher Jan 2012 #2
The use of finite resources will end... either due to scarcity or price spikes. EVs will win txlibdem Jan 2012 #3

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
1. Hmm. There's lots of coal
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jan 2012

US has plenty of NG:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-16/gas-speculators-turning-bearish-on-catastrophic-surplus-energy-markets.html

Supplies may reach a seasonal record of 2.4 trillion cubic feet in March, which is when heating demand usually ends and producers begin piping more gas into storage, Cooper said. Unless production falls or cold weather bolsters demand, prices will drop to $2.40 per million Btu, and perhaps below $2, as gas overflows storage caverns and clogs pipelines, he said.

“This is a situation that has never been seen before,” Cooper said. “If we hit 2.4 trillion, you’re looking at storage capacity constraints by July or August where you literally have system problems because the system is so full.”


Huge NG find off Mozambique initiates global rush:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-16/poorest-nations-host-biggest-gas-finds-in-sign-of-deals-energy.html
Eni SpA (ENI) and Anadarko Petroleum Corp. (APC) found about $800 billion of gas under the Indian Ocean off Mozambique, 36 times more valuable than the nation’s economy, ranked 213 of 227 countries for per capita income. Explorers in neighboring Tanzania have struck gas fields, and drilling will pick up pace in Kenya this year.


kristopher

(29,798 posts)
2. "Dirty fuels Create an Unsustainable economy ... 4) Nukes "
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jan 2012
Price of coal




As the OP says, "Build build build!"

txlibdem

(6,183 posts)
3. The use of finite resources will end... either due to scarcity or price spikes. EVs will win
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:20 PM
Jan 2012

Electric vehicles are already cheaper than gasoline vehicles when the cost of fuel and maintenance are factored in (using the average driver's 35 mile per day). If you drive more than average per day then the electric vehicle will save you even more.

You need to get 40+ miles per gallon to beat the cost of a Nissan Leaf leased at $400 per month. How many of us actually LIKE the cars on the market that get over 40 miles per gallon. Not I. I'd rather be driving an electric... knowing that not one single penny of my vehicle use is going to fund terrorists. You can make your own decisions of course. I choose NOT to fund terrorism.

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