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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:25 AM May 2013

Soaring energy costs make Europeans poor

Over the past few years Europeans have seen their energy costs locked into an upward spiral, deteriorating the competitiveness of European businesses and putting more households at risk of energy poverty.

Across Europe, average electricity prices for households and industries have increased by 29% between 2005 and 2011. Over the same period of time electricity prices in the USA increased by only 5% and in Japan by 1%.

n the UK household electricity prices jumped even higher – we’re seeing an increase of over 80% since 2005. This was paralleled by an unprecedented surge in the number of households affected by energy poverty in the UK, from 2 million to 5 million.

Europe has allowed the problem of energy poverty to grow out of proportion as many households struggle to pay their energy bills or are unable to maintain sufficient level of heating during winter. Today between 50 and 125 million people are affected by energy poverty in Europe. In Bulgaria, Portugal, Lithuania, Romania, Cyprus, Latvia and Malta over 30% of people are unable to keep their homes warm and face disproportionately high energy bills. Meanwhile over 20% of people living in Greece, Poland, Italy, Hungary and Spain face the same challenges.

http://www.euractiv.com/energy/soaring-energy-costs-europeans-p-analysis-519884?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=EurActivRSS
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Soaring energy costs make Europeans poor (Original Post) phantom power May 2013 OP
Author: "Milton Catelin is Chief Executive of the World Coal Association" bananas May 2013 #1
Recommended by djean111, DCKit, GliderGuider bananas May 2013 #3
Your point being? joshcryer May 2013 #9
How many of those countries are facing double or triple dip recessions? FogerRox May 2013 #6
Which makes the price rises all the more severe NickB79 May 2013 #7
Looking at the countries involved... FBaggins May 2013 #2
The author's solution? railsback May 2013 #4
That's the problem with coal. It *is* cheap. phantom power May 2013 #5
Could it be that Europe has has several COLD winters?] happyslug May 2013 #8
27000 dead from hypothermia in Wales/England and no one noticed? Iterate May 2013 #10
Thank you. nt kristopher May 2013 #11
Thanks - good info wtmusic May 2013 #12

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
6. How many of those countries are facing double or triple dip recessions?
Wed May 22, 2013, 05:30 PM
May 2013

Where unemployment is 15% to 25%.......

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
7. Which makes the price rises all the more severe
Wed May 22, 2013, 07:39 PM
May 2013

Their energy costs are rising rapidly, AND their citizen's ability to pay for it is declining at the same time due to austerity measures. You'd think that, due to the collapsing economies, they'd at least see electricity prices stabilize as demand is reduced. Apparently that's not the case.

Screwed coming and going, it seems.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
2. Looking at the countries involved...
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:54 AM
May 2013

... and the use of both "electricity" and "energy" without clear distinction... I'd guess that fuel costs are a bigger factor than renewables/nuclear.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
10. 27000 dead from hypothermia in Wales/England and no one noticed?
Thu May 23, 2013, 09:42 AM
May 2013
The problem of fuel poverty in Europe goes beyond mere considerations of comfort. In England and Wales, 27,000 people die each year because of cold temperatures and 10% of this is directly attributed to fuel poverty. Extrapolating these figures to the EU level, well over 20,000 people could be dying because of unaffordable fuel every year in Europe. However, this is a very conservative estimate. Bjorn Lomborg estimates that around 1.5 million people could be dying prematurely each year because of the cold.
http://www.euractiv.com/energy/soaring-energy-costs-europeans-p-analysis-519884?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=EurActivRSS


Ah yes, Bjorn again, the anti-environment environmentalist.

Interesting to see how they got that number. Somehow (unexplained and unsourced) the numbers jump around a bit, all very scary, as the number first introduced is quickly dropped by an order of magnitude to 2700, all victims of the freshly resurected "fuel poverty". Not being quite scary enough, it's pumped back up by extrapolating to all of Europe. Frankly, I've never thought of all "cold" as being created equal and if given a chance I'll take Portugal or Malta over Minnesota cold any day. And if this was true, wouldn't there be a number gradient? And poor Scotland doesn't get a mention.

Regardless, Bjorn is used to kick it to a staggering 1.5 million unnoticed, unknown people, dying somewhere.

For the first number they cite this study:
"Getting the measure of fuel poverty"
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/48297/4662-getting-measure-fuel-pov-final-hills-rpt.pdf

It's 237 pages of technocratic goodness commissioned by Department of Energy and Climate Change (UK), and describes how to best adjust social policy, taxes, and social support during the process of reducing GHG and doing it without hurting the poor.

I don't see any mention in it of giving away coal, which relatively few people in the UK use for heat anyway. The don't commonly use electricity for heat either. Anyway, this was the paper that was leveraged into a coal salesman's pamphlet.

This is the source of the 27,000:
From a health and well-being perspective: living at low temperatures as a result of fuel poverty is likely to be a significant contributor not just to the excess winter deaths that occur each year (a total of 27,000 each year over the last decade in England and Wales), but to a much larger number of incidents of ill-health and demands on the National Health Service and a wider range of problems of social isolation and poor outcomes for young people


EWDs, or Excess Winter Deaths is the statistical difference in seasonal death rate. It says nothing about the cause. It is strongly associated with age over 65. It became an item in the UK in the late 1980's when there were discussions over the connection of all communities and rural areas to the gas mains following increased extraction from the North Sea. But if these excess deaths have been consistent over the last decade, then why hasn't there been a corresponding increase when prices rose? And how is it that any Finns over 65 are still alive?

Here's a good source:
Multiple deprivation and excess winter deaths in Scotland
http://www.shelligoe.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/smgr/dep.pdf

CONCLUSIONS
EWDs are relatively easy to measure and may be considered as the acute outcome of cold damp housing. Mortality, however, is at the tip of an expensive morbidity ‘iceberg’. House conditions play a decisive role, not only in determining at what age adults die, but more importantly, the impact on occupant health and quality of life. Investment in energy-efficiency measures, such as central heating, insulation, double glazing and complementary ventilation strategies to ensure good indoor air quality, can drive major improvements in public health and reduce EWDs. It is important to measure and cost the impact of poor housing and cold
indoor temperatures on health. Poor housing conditions result in increased external costs, such as hospital admissions, prescription charges, medical consultations and absenteeism.

Measures currently being funded under the HEES (known as ‘Warm Deal’ in Scotland) do not, as yet, appear to be effective in raising indoor temperatures to
a level that will ensure whole-house ‘thermal safety’. A more holistic, comprehensive and capital intensive approach is thus required.


Long story short, this is a housing problem, of limited scope, leveraged to all of Europe, leveraged to all ages, leveraged to all of the poor, with inflated numbers, to sell more coal, which people don't use to keep warm.
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