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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:27 AM Jan 2012

In Mackerel's Plunder, Hints of Epic Fish Collapse

“It’s going fast,” he said as he looked at the 57-foot boat. “We’ve got to fish harder before it’s all gone.” Asked what he would leave his son, he shrugged: “He’ll have to find something else.”

Jack mackerel, rich in oily protein, is manna to a hungry planet, a staple in Africa. Elsewhere, people eat it unaware; much of it is reduced to feed for aquaculture and pigs. It can take more than five kilograms, more than 11 pounds, of jack mackerel to raise a single kilogram of farmed salmon.

Stocks have dropped from an estimated 30 million metric tons to less than a tenth of that in two decades. The world’s largest trawlers, after depleting other oceans, now head south toward the edge of Antarctica to compete for what is left.

An eight-country investigation of the fishing industry in the southern Pacific by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists shows how the fate of the jack mackerel may foretell the progressive collapse of fish stocks in all oceans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/25/science/earth/in-mackerels-plunder-hints-of-epic-fish-collapse.html?_r=1
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In Mackerel's Plunder, Hints of Epic Fish Collapse (Original Post) phantom power Jan 2012 OP
Fucking hell. nt Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #1
I've seen NZ toothfish (AKA Chilean Sea Bass) boats deep in the Ross Sea Antarctica jpak Jan 2012 #13
Our fishing industry is just as fucked up as anyone else's Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #15
“We’ve got to fish harder before it’s all gone.” eppur_se_muova Jan 2012 #2
I can't even say they're wrong phantom power Jan 2012 #3
It's the Prisoner's Dilemma, multiplayer version. eppur_se_muova Jan 2012 #4
Tragedy of the Commons jpak Jan 2012 #14
What are we doing to ourselves? GliderGuider Jan 2012 #5
Mackerel is my favorite fish... hunter Jan 2012 #6
I've been criticized before for calling piscophagy an ecocidal practice. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #7
I wouldn't criticize that... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #8
If one wants to maintain one's pretensions to erudition, one can't simply say GliderGuider Jan 2012 #9
ROFLMAO!!! DUzy! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #11
Tragedy of the Commons. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #10
Over-fishing and climate change are the two clearest examples of the tragedy. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #12

jpak

(41,758 posts)
13. I've seen NZ toothfish (AKA Chilean Sea Bass) boats deep in the Ross Sea Antarctica
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jan 2012

There is no length to which we will not go to get at these fish.

(Not picking on Kiwis - just an example...)

eppur_se_muova

(36,266 posts)
2. “We’ve got to fish harder before it’s all gone.”
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:57 PM
Jan 2012

That sounds like a parody, but it really is the way a lot of people think.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. I can't even say they're wrong
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jan 2012

You're a fisherman, and you look around and see that either you get it, or your competitors will.

"Saving the fish" isn't even an option on the table.

eppur_se_muova

(36,266 posts)
4. It's the Prisoner's Dilemma, multiplayer version.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:50 PM
Jan 2012

Interestingly, many "primitive" cultures figure out for themselves that overharvesting is the problem, and establish quotes which are enforced by the whole society. It's trying to keep the "outsiders" -- esp. industrial fishing vessels -- out that is the real challenge.

Worth noting that the main reason the Somalis turned to piracy is that their traditional fishing grounds were being depleted by factory ships (I'm looking at you, Japan). Similar things are happening in the Phillipines now.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
6. Mackerel is my favorite fish...
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jan 2012

...to eat. Yum.

But this is why I won't eat them.

It's a very sad thing that someone else will.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
7. I've been criticized before for calling piscophagy an ecocidal practice.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:53 AM
Jan 2012

Reports like this merely strengthen that conviction.

Eschew piscophagy!

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
10. Tragedy of the Commons.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:43 AM
Jan 2012

Nobody controls, owns, or regulates commercial activity on the open seas, and ecological disaster is the result.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
12. Over-fishing and climate change are the two clearest examples of the tragedy.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:35 AM
Jan 2012

Their impact is a bit more severe than the over-grazing that first prompted Hardin's observation.

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