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wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 08:14 PM Aug 2013

Heatstroke deaths shut out radiation 85-0 as Japan swelters without air conditioning

[div style="float: left; padding-right: 12px;"]No. of heatstroke victims in July so far five times more than last year

"The Fire and Disaster Management Agency said Wednesday that the number of people who were hospitalized due to heatstroke in July so far is five times more than last year. It said that 13,681 people had been hospitalized nationwide for heatstroke in the two weeks from July 1 to 14, Fuji TV reported.

The agency also said that 85 deaths since mid-May had been attributed to heatstroke. Of those, 73 were aged 65 or older.

For June, the total number of people taken to hospital for heatstroke was 4,265 which was 2.3 times higher than in 2012, Fuji reported. Of those, 49.4% were over 65 years old and 14.5% were aged 7 to 18, the agency said."

http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/no-of-heatstroke-victims-in-july-so-far-five-times-more-than-last-year

From comments:
"This is also a direct result of the government campaign for people to reduce energy use. The elderly and sick in society suffer the most. Many of those elderly are on fixed incomes and can not afford the increased electrical costs associated with running their a/c's."

Greenpeace trust fund brat deaths from heatstroke remain tied with those of radiation.

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Heatstroke deaths shut out radiation 85-0 as Japan swelters without air conditioning (Original Post) wtmusic Aug 2013 OP
How did people survive in the past without AC? (nt) enough Aug 2013 #1
After most homes had access to electricity: no_hypocrisy Aug 2013 #3
We "still" live without AC, with fans, windows, and a sense of where the heat enough Aug 2013 #4
I think most people in Japan don't have a/c kristopher Aug 2013 #5
Looks like it was on the rise until 2012: joshcryer Aug 2013 #12
AC is not making things hotter for everybody. wtmusic Aug 2013 #6
Really? Nuclear only provides 2.7% of final energy consumed. kristopher Aug 2013 #7
I was thinking small. Every time you air condition a space, you are emiiting heat into enough Aug 2013 #9
Without an excess of carbon dioxide wtmusic Aug 2013 #10
They didn't. joshcryer Aug 2013 #11
Or there are very few people in 2013 working in manual labor XemaSab Aug 2013 #13
That's an excellent point. joshcryer Aug 2013 #14
Great post. wtmusic Aug 2013 #15
How obtuse can you be? MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #2
Really. How do you know? wtmusic Aug 2013 #8
Energy use change in Japan from 2011 to 2012 GliderGuider Aug 2013 #16

no_hypocrisy

(46,192 posts)
3. After most homes had access to electricity:
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 09:23 PM
Aug 2013

metal fans with or without a plate of block ice in front of it for homemade AC.

enough

(13,262 posts)
4. We "still" live without AC, with fans, windows, and a sense of where the heat
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 09:54 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:43 PM - Edit history (1)

is coming from. Never feel deprived.

I'm getting concerned about the way it seems to be going that people think AC is a basic necessity. Concerned because I don't think it will continue to be available and because the AC itself is making things hotter for everybody.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
5. I think most people in Japan don't have a/c
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:00 PM
Aug 2013

At least they didn't in the 90s when I lived there. In fact, it is a cultural trait that many people consider air conditioned air to be unhealthy.

Fans, appropriate clothing, and lots of fluids are the normal way to deal with the heat. The thing is, this year they have been hitting records all over the country.

Mercury rises above 40 C for second consecutive day
AUG 11, 2013

Japan remained in the grip of a severe heat wave on Sunday, with temperatures topping 40 C for the second day in a row, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.

The temperature hit 40.6 C in Kofu, Yamanashi Prefecture, central Japan, and 40.4 C in Shimanto, Kochi Prefecture, western Japan.

Temperatures exceeded 35 C at 297 of 927 observation points across the country, recording 39.9 C in Mobara, Chiba Prefecture, 39.8 C in Hamamatsu, Shizuoka Prefecture, and 39.5 C in Tajimi, Gifu Prefecture, the agency said. The temperature in central Tokyo reached 38.3 C.

Temperatures set new records at nearly 40 observation points, while they went above 30 C at 700 points.

The severe heat caused the death of at least three people...

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08/11/national/mercury-rises-above-40-c-for-second-consecutive-day/

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
12. Looks like it was on the rise until 2012:
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 02:31 AM
Aug 2013
http://www.jraia.or.jp/english/

Scroll down, bottom left, statistical releases.

But from what I see it is true that Japanese people in general seem to deal with the heat. The worlds changing climate is going to require that behavior to change.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
6. AC is not making things hotter for everybody.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:02 PM
Aug 2013

The carbon that traditional sources of energy emit are what is making it hotter for everybody.

Without nuclear energy it would have been much hotter this summer - for everyone.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
7. Really? Nuclear only provides 2.7% of final energy consumed.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:35 PM
Aug 2013

Renewables provide 16.7%.

Too bad Japan didn't spend all that money on wind, solar and geothermal instead of wasting it on nuclear.

enough

(13,262 posts)
9. I was thinking small. Every time you air condition a space, you are emiiting heat into
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:41 PM
Aug 2013

the surrounding area. Essentially, you are burning something to cool your space, just like a refrigerator.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
10. Without an excess of carbon dioxide
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:49 PM
Aug 2013

in the atmosphere, nearly all of that heat would be harmlessly radiated out to space as infrared radiation. But on it's way out, it's trapped by CO2, creating an effect similar to a greenhouse.

As it is, the Earth radiates away nearly all of the energy it receives from the sun. Excess CO2 is enough to upset the balance.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
11. They didn't.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 02:23 AM
Aug 2013

There weren't as many people in the past. And they didn't live nearly as long.

See here for an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_North_American_heat_wave

And contrast to here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_2012_North_American_heat_wave

In 1936 5k people died from the heat wave. In 2012 only 82 died from the heatwave.

In 1936 the population was 128 million. In 2012 the population of the United States was 314 million.

That works out to 0.003% of the population killed in 1936 vs. 0.00003% dead in 2012. Or air conditioners are 100x times better at keeping the populations alive than if they didn't exist (this is especially true since most of the 2012 deaths were people who didn't have air conditioning).

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
13. Or there are very few people in 2013 working in manual labor
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:04 AM
Aug 2013

and for the people who are working in manual labor, there's more awareness of the dangers of extreme heat.

People lived in Redding before air conditioning, and I don't know how they did it.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
14. That's an excellent point.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:11 AM
Aug 2013

Certainly a sedentary lifestyle is able to deal with the heat more than anything else. I can't imagine being active during a heatwave beyond a few minutes just to nourish myself with water.

 

MjolnirTime

(1,800 posts)
2. How obtuse can you be?
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 09:17 PM
Aug 2013

We know you are owned by the Nuclear Industry.

Who do you think you are fooling?

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
16. Energy use change in Japan from 2011 to 2012
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:08 PM
Aug 2013


The use of fossil fuel went up by 30.3 mtoe; nuclear went down by 32.8 mtoe; hydro went down 1 mtoe; renewables went up by 0.7 mtoe. Overall primary energy consumption went down by 3 mtoe. CO2 emissions went up by almost 92 million tonnes.

It's only over a single year, but the picture isn't very encouraging either from a national or a global perspective.
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