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Originally published on Cost of Solar.
Home solar panels are the new granite countertops, according to Tom Werner, CEO of US-based SunPower, one of the largest solar panel companies in the world. What does that mean? That means that, for an increasing number of new homeowners, solar panels are becoming an add-on right from the beginning. Furthermore, Werner is confident home solar panels will move beyond the granite countertops phase to mass adoption rather quickly.
Youre going to see a transition from novelty, to granite countertops, to mainstream option, Werner said. Were rapidly passing the equivalent of a countertops decision to a no-brainer. You just do it.
If, like me, youre not that familiar with the granite countertop thing, Bloomberg notes that a lot of new home buyers have decided to pay $5,000 to $10,000 for a granite kitchen countertop that is expected to last longer than a Formica-style countertop and would also be made of natural materials.
The thing with solar panels is that youre probably saving money from Day 1 if you incorporate the solar panel purchase into your mortgage. The solar panels will cut your homes electricity bill dramatically. You may even get paid a pretty penny when you generate more electricity than you use. And installing the solar panels as part of new home construction is cheaper than adding them onto an existing home (approximately 20% cheaper). Like granite countertops, there is a financial benefit in the long term, but theres also a financial benefit right from the beginning.
Solar Panels For Home Growing Fast
SunPower has now supplied over 10,000 homes with solar panels, and about 4,000 of those were built in California last year. Apparently, according to Werner, approximately 20% of all new homes in the state will include solar panels this year. And that percentage is only expected to go up in the coming years.
At least 6 of the 10 largest US homebuilders now incorporate solar panels into the construction of some new homes....
Read more at http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/27/solar-panels-new-granite-countertops-long/#tt4xBiyPP77vkPBW.99
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)them pay. Is that true?
Does anyone have a smaller bill but also solar panels in California?
Can you just get what you need?
Should you wait until you need a new roof?
I'd love to hear from people who have the panels or have tried to get them.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)if you put in a new roof and solar at the same time.
The portion of the new roof that will be covered with the solar panels, will have a 30% credit from the government, it is regarded as solar preparation fee. The total cost of the solar panels, inverter, permits, etc. will also be 30% entitled to a solar credit.
These credits can be extended over several years if you cannot use them all at once in a particular year.
In general the cost of the solar panels before federal credits depends on the kilowatt you need. For example a 4.5KW system could cost anywhere from 16K to 21K before tax credits. Keep in mind that the 4.5KW will actually be less, since the conversion from DC to AC reduces the actual output. In addition, how the panels are mounted, tilt, azimuth, and other factors will also reduce the actual output.
Any qualified solar panel expert should be able to give you a precise estimate.
Get several estimates
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)thanks for posting that
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)cover
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Also, don't just consider PV (electricity). Solar hot water has a phenomenal ROI, since the panels are much simpler and cheaper.
You can size it as large or as small as you'd like. In fact, you could buy fewer panels to start with, and plan to gradually add panels as finances permit. Just make sure you let your installer know your plan, so they can properly size the rest of the system.
Doesn't particularly matter from a structural perspective. As the other poster said, there can be other reasons.
droidamus2
(1,699 posts)We are in the process of getting solar panels here in Vermont. We will still be hooked to the grid but the model is to finance the panels so that the payment is equivalent to your average electric bill. So you end up paying the finance company rather than your power company. Then you put enough panels either on your roof or stand alone to generate excess power during the high sun months which result in credits from the local power company. You should be able to generate enough credits to go through the low generation months without making any payments to the power company. You get good clean power with no up front costs and you pay a set amount each month on the 15 year loan.
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)like an afternoon tv ad.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)I'd say it's an online solar trade 'magazine'/sales aide site. The article in the OP links back to them. Their website's about page:
We believe in the power of solar photovoltaic (PV) technology to restore balance to the environment and protect the US from increasingly volatile fuel prices.
Use the free tools spread throughout this site weve designed Cost of Solar to be as intuitive as possible:
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tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)what solar counter tops were, I didn't see the link.
Thanks!
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)system before tax credits, anywhere from 16K to 21K before tax credits.
That is just a rough guess, shop around.
Also, see if your state or utility company gives rebates. Federal tax credit is 30%
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)it sounded like an advertisement to me.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)your post 8: "...Googling what solar counter tops were..."
The article appeared in a trade magazine, and describing the way solar has moved into the mainstream of the new home market from the view of builders and installers would be "industry news" not "advertising". Note that the graph above (from a different article, same site) shows that we are breaking new ground in the way solar is spreading and some pretty fundamental things are changing rapidly. Among the best places to keep up with that type of change are industry publications.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)Ask any questions, people are quite nice and try to help each other
It is a relatively complicated project so you need to learn as much as you can. Also, use Google, find reviews on various panels, inverters etc.
all the best
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)You should also look into solar hot water. The ROI is fantastic, since the panels are a lot simpler and cheaper. They're basically a pipe running over or through a black surface.