The biggest problem with the panel is they are looking down on these Congressmen because the Congressmen cite the Bible. These Congressmen cite the Bible because that is how their constituents think.
Thus to look down on these Congressmen is self defeating, you are saying they are DUMB and the people who vote for them are DUMB. This is offensive to the very people you want to vote these Congressmen out. Thus they will rally around him, for an attack on him is an attack on them. It is self defeating, the more someone like the panel members speak, the more people who vote for these Congressmen feel they are being looked down upon. The more they feel more looked down on, the less likely for them to vote against these Political leaders.
To win an election you have to maintain your political base AND attack your opponents political base. Such attacks are not to attack the members of your opponent's base, but to get those members to defect to your side. Thus you have to talk in terms they understand and can relate to. In much of the US that means citing the bible and using the bible as justification for these people to vote for your side,
Instead of calling the Bible a "Magic book" use it, cite it. For example, when someone says that God Gave man "Dominion" over the earth, when written that not only means man had the right to use everything, but also a DUTY to protect, just as a man has "Dominion" over women, that is to use her as a woman but also to protect her and provide for her. It is a TWO WAY STREET.
Side Note: I use the term Dominion over women to show the meaning of Dominion not that I believe women should be under a man's dominion. The Bible tells men to treat women with respect and care and denounces rape as a crime, in many ways by using the same word to women, it shows that it is intended to be a two way street, nor Domination, but Dominion.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A26&version=CEV
Numbers 35:33
33 You may not pollute the land in which you live, for the blood pollutes the land. There can be no recovery[a] for the land from the blood that is shed in it, except by the blood of the one who shed it.
Lev. 25:23-24. The land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Throughout the country that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land.
The above is one of the greatest statement in the Bible that people are care takers of the earth NOT people to run over the earth.
Ezekiel 34:2-4. Woe to the shepherds of Israel who only take care of themselves! Should not the shepherds take care of the flock? You eat the curds, clothe yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you did not take care of the flock! You have not strengthened the weak or healed the
sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally.
In many ways the above is more economic then protecting the environment, but it points out Greed is bad, people are care takers and as such take care of the things around them.
Genesis 9: 7 As for you, be fertile and multiply. Populate the earth and multiply in it.” 8 God said to Noah and to his sons with him, 9 “I am now setting up my covenant with you, with your descendants, 10 and with every living being with you—with the birds, with the large animals, and with all the animals of the earth, leaving the ark with you.[a] 11 I will set up my covenant with you so that never again will all life be cut off by floodwaters. There will never again be a flood to destroy the earth.”
In many ways God word to Noah is most powerful, for he is not only saying Noah did good by SAVING ALL LIVING ANIMALS but that GOD will never do something like that again (Which implies man can, but given what God had Noah do, how can destruction of God's Creations be in God's plan.
Remember God told Noah to save both Clean and unclean animals. The difference being Clean animals were animals useful to man, unclean were wild animals. Thus when God told Noah to save all creatures he meant ALL, the same today, God wants us to save what Noah saved, all of God's creations.
Cite Noah and the Arc, when God decided to destroy the earth with a flood, did God NOT tell Noah to take two of each type of Creature? That shows God wants us to TAKE CARE OF HIS CREATION EARTH,
Now, the Panel makes some good points, but until they start to try to TALK to those voters as adults and STOP attacking "Their Magic Books", and "First Century magic books" they are NOT going to reach them. This panel is a good example of people talking to other and patting each other on the back while kicking the people they need to win.
The Host seems to want to go into a debate that is NOT an attack on religion, but the male panel members gave me the impression they wanted to attack religion. It reminds me of the Scoops Monkey trial. Darrow ended up attacking fundamentalism, while the ACLU was trying to get him off the Defense team for that very type of attack (Darrow had the previous year won a life sentence for two collage boys who murder a young kid, it was a deliberate murder, it was a victory to get a life sentence for the two, but that case impressed Scoops who wanted Darrow on his Defense team and since he was the Defendant the ACLU, who were paying the bills of the Defense, had to accept Scoop's decision). The ACLU did NOT want the trial to become at attack on Religion, but the right to teach human evolution in schools.
Thus the ACLU wanted Darrow out of the Scoop's case for Darrow was falling into the same trap this panel fell into, instead of talking of ways to get people to do want is needed, they just attack those people. Why do they just go to these Congressional Areas and get into fights with the locals, it do about as much good as this discussion panel did.
Do you want people to work to end Climate change or don't you? This panel language tells me they do not want to work to end climate Change, for they rather feel "good" that they know better then those locals Yahoos who vote for these politicians. We have to remember we have to work with PEOPLE, often people we may not agree with. That is how we get things done, not by kicking people in the teeth and telling them they are stupid by NOT thinking like we are thinking.
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