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muriel_volestrangler

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Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:20 AM Dec 2013

Planet likely to warm by 4C by 2100, scientists warn

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The scientist leading the research said that unless emissions of greenhouse gases were cut, the planet would heat up by a minimum of 4C by 2100, twice the level the world's governments deem dangerous.

The research indicates that fewer clouds form as the planet warms, meaning less sunlight is reflected back into space, driving temperatures up further still. The way clouds affect global warming has been the biggest mystery surrounding future climate change.

Professor Steven Sherwood, at the University of New South Wales, in Australia, who led the new work, said: "This study breaks new ground twice: first by identifying what is controlling the cloud changes and second by strongly discounting the lowest estimates of future global warming in favour of the higher and more damaging estimates."

"4C would likely be catastrophic rather than simply dangerous," Sherwood told the Guardian. "For example, it would make life difficult, if not impossible, in much of the tropics, and would guarantee the eventual melting of the Greenland ice sheet and some of the Antarctic ice sheet", with sea levels rising by many metres as a result.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/31/planet-will-warm-4c-2100-climate


Spread in model climate sensitivity traced to atmospheric convective mixing

Equilibrium climate sensitivity refers to the ultimate change in global mean temperature in response to a change in external forcing. Despite decades of research attempting to narrow uncertainties, equilibrium climate sensitivity estimates from climate models still span roughly 1.5 to 5 degrees Celsius for a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration, precluding accurate projections of future climate. The spread arises largely from differences in the feedback from low clouds, for reasons not yet understood. Here we show that differences in the simulated strength of convective mixing between the lower and middle tropical troposphere explain about half of the variance in climate sensitivity estimated by 43 climate models. The apparent mechanism is that such mixing dehydrates the low-cloud layer at a rate that increases as the climate warms, and this rate of increase depends on the initial mixing strength, linking the mixing to cloud feedback. The mixing inferred from observations appears to be sufficiently strong to imply a climate sensitivity of more than 3 degrees for a doubling of carbon dioxide. This is significantly higher than the currently accepted lower bound of 1.5 degrees, thereby constraining model projections towards relatively severe future warming.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7481/full/nature12829.html

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Planet likely to warm by 4C by 2100, scientists warn (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 OP
K&R cprise Jan 2014 #1
This is interesting research, with contrarian conclusions, ... CRH Jan 2014 #2
The first 3 paragrpahs of the study address your questions... Viking12 Jan 2014 #3
Thanks for the excerpts from the study, ... CRH Jan 2014 #4
Found another link written from the study published in Nature, ... CRH Jan 2014 #5

CRH

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2. This is interesting research, with contrarian conclusions, ...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:49 AM
Jan 2014

Most of what I have read on global heating suggests the phenomenon increases evaporation, therefore water vapor, the most abundant GHG. A simpler way to think of it, more heating leads to more water in the atmosphere. These new findings suggest the opposite, calling into question previous albedoic modeling and the effect of water vapor preventing the evacuation of heat from the earth surface. If this research proves correct, it turns much of what I thought I understood into the realm of the unknown, again.

In the past I have had the quandary of what ultimately dominated the temperature feedbacks. The reflective effects from cloud albedo or the heat trapping effect of water vapor. Does this vary in elevation, troposphere vs stratosphere (?), and/or longitude, northern vs southern hemisphere as well as equatorial vs polar? How do the constant evolving currents, oceanic and atmospheric, effect the outcome? How does one analyze what is known while acknowledging the unknown, with any certainty? This new information adds more complexity, and potentially reverses conclusions, but must be integrated with present theory with care.

The temperature driven water vapor feedback has been thought to be in positive feedback adding to global heating. If increased heating leads to less clouds, wouldn't the catalyst of the heating be self corrective? I think we would first have to understand what circumstances control the 'dominance of effect' of albedo, when compared to the heat blanket caused by water vapor.

As to the climate sensitivity link, it adds to the reservoir of uncertainty hobbling the understanding of mere mortals. Is the earth system so diverse and complex that it will always defy human understanding? This is where my thoughts settle.

I tend to trust our ability to understand the earth's geologic past as recorded in fossil and ice, more than I trust the ability of human science to find and analyze all the relevant parts that influence the present state. Exponential climate sensitivity has already been recorded in our geologic past.

Happy New Year.



Viking12

(6,012 posts)
3. The first 3 paragrpahs of the study address your questions...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jan 2014

...about the feedback of clouds.


Spread in model climate sensitivity traced to atmospheric convective mixing

Nature 505, 37–42 (02 January 2014) doi:10.1038/nature12829

Introduction
Ever since numerical global climate models (GCMs) were first developed in the early 1970s, they have exhibited a wide range of equilibrium climate sensitivities (roughly 1.5–4.5?°C warming per equivalent doubling of CO2 concentration)1 and consequently a broad range of future warming projections, with the uncertainty due mostly to the range of simulated net cloud feedback2, 3. This feedback strength varies from roughly zero in the lowest-sensitivity models to about 1.2–1.4?W?m?2?K?1 in the highest4. High clouds (above about 400?hPa or 8?km) contribute about 0.3–0.4?W?m?2?K?1 to this predicted feedback because the temperatures at the tops of the clouds do not increase much in warmer climates, which enhances their greenhouse effect. Mid-level cloud changes also make a modest positive-feedback contribution in most models5.

Another positive feedback in most models comes from low cloud, occurring below about 750?hPa or 3?km, mostly over oceans in the planetary boundary layer below about 2?km. Low cloud is capable of particularly strong climate feedback because of its broad coverage and because its reflection of incoming sunlight is not offset by a commensurate contribution to the greenhouse effect6. The change in low cloud varies greatly depending on the model, causing most of the overall spread in cloud feedbacks and climate sensitivities among GCMs5, 7. No compelling theory of low cloud amount has yet emerged.

A number of competing mechanisms have, however, been suggested that might account for changes in either direction. On the one hand, evaporation from the oceans increases at about 2%?K?1, which—all other things being equal—may increase cloud amount8. On the other hand, detailed simulations of non-precipitating cloudy marine boundary layers show that if the layer deepens in a warmer climate, more dry air can be drawn down towards the surface, desiccating the layer and reducing cloud amount8, 9.

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Discussion

Although a few previous studies have already noted that higher-sensitivity models simulate certain cloud-relevant phenomena better23, 24, 25, ours is the first to demonstrate a causal physical mechanism, or to show consistent predictive skill across so many models, or to point to processes connecting low-cloud regions to the deep tropics. The MILC mechanism is surprisingly straightforward. Lower-tropospheric mixing dries the boundary layer, and the drying rate increases by 5–7%?K?1 in warmer climates owing to stronger vertical water vapour gradients. The moisture source from surface evaporation increases at only about 2%?K?1. Thus as climate warms, any drying by lower-tropospheric mixing becomes larger relative to the rest of the hydrological cycle, tending to dry the boundary layer. How important this is depends on how important the diagnosed lower-tropospheric mixing was in the base state of the atmosphere. Lower-tropospheric mixing is unrealistically weak in models that have low climate sensitivity.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7481/full/nature12829.html

CRH

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4. Thanks for the excerpts from the study, ...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jan 2014

I'm blocked from the full benefit of the Nature link by the pay window. I'll have to wait a month or two for it to become old news. It will be interesting reading for I have had these questions rambling around for some time, and wondered why there was little published on the subject.

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