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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 09:28 AM Mar 2014

The Red Faces of the Solar Skeptics

By NANCY FOLBRE

If the faces of renewable energy critics are not red yet, they soon will be. For years, these critics — of solar photovoltaics in particular — have called renewable energy a boutique fantasy. A recent Wall Street Journal blog post continues the trend, asserting that solar subsidies take money from the poor to benefit the rich.

But solar-generated electricity is turning into a powerful environmental and economic success story. It’s also threatening the balance sheets of electric utility companies that continue to rely heavily on fossil fuels and nuclear energy.

As their costs per kilowatt hour have fallen through the floor, solar arrays have hit the rooftops.

The average price of a solar panel has declined an estimated 60 percent since the beginning of 2011, and this year the total photovoltaic capacity in the United States is projected to reach 10 gigawatts, the energy equivalent of several nuclear power plants. (By one estimate, photovoltaic costs crossed over to become cheaper than electricity generated by new nuclear plants about four years ago.)

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The Red Faces of the Solar Skeptics (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2014 OP
looked into solar panels this weekend a little rurallib Mar 2014 #1
We are getting ready to build a tiny house, and riqster Mar 2014 #2
good luck rurallib Mar 2014 #3
Thanks! It will be easier for us, since the well, septic, etc. are already there. riqster Mar 2014 #4
Good article. kristopher Mar 2014 #5
I'm not embarrassed, not at all. hunter Mar 2014 #6
I think you and kristopher represent opposite extremes on this cprise Mar 2014 #7

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
1. looked into solar panels this weekend a little
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 09:45 AM
Mar 2014

early in the process, but really liked what I heard.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
2. We are getting ready to build a tiny house, and
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:25 AM
Mar 2014

...solar panels WILL be on its roof.

The house will be on our daughter's farm, so we can spend more time with her and the grandson. Most likely it will be on wheels.

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
3. good luck
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:05 AM
Mar 2014

I also looked into geothermal for heating - a guy can dream.
Geothermal system for heat driven by solar energy!

edit to add - if a person was building anything these days they would be a foll not to look at off the grid systems to incorporate as they build.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
4. Thanks! It will be easier for us, since the well, septic, etc. are already there.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:19 AM
Mar 2014

We just have to make sure there's enough capacity to add us on weekends.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
5. Good article.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:09 PM
Mar 2014

Yes, it's cheerleading, but it's a fact that right now solar has earned some lusty cheers.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
6. I'm not embarrassed, not at all.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 05:13 PM
Mar 2014

Even if solar panels are free they are not going to replace fossil fuels in our industrial, consumer society.

The only way we'll quit fossil fuels is by quitting fossil fuels. Life will be different then. "Big Box" stores will probably go away. Personal automobiles will probably go away too.

I'll say it again. You can walk out to your main circuit breaker and go "off-grid" anytime you like. Even lazier, simply don't pay your electric bill, the power company will turn it off for you.

You can quit driving too.

What then? That's how you bring the reality home.


cprise

(8,445 posts)
7. I think you and kristopher represent opposite extremes on this
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:48 PM
Mar 2014

Its entirely possible that the need to switch to renewables will curb consumerism significantly. Giving us the on/off choice is disingenuous-- clearly the choice will be between an economic model that either dispenses with growth, or one that creatively denies the extent to which growth has abated. And different sectors of the economy may even choose among these, or develop their own spin on the situation.

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