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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:24 AM Apr 2014

Why it’s a big deal that half of the Great Lakes are still covered in ice

http://grist.org/climate-energy/why-its-a-big-deal-that-half-of-the-great-lakes-are-still-covered-in-ice-2/

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Like the shipping troubles, some of the more unexpected things the lakes and their ecosystems could face in the next few months are the direct result of the lingering ice and cold:

Throughout the winter, huge numbers of ducks that feed by diving below the water for fish ended up starving to death. Connie Adams, a biologist in New York’s Department of Environmental Conservation, told the AP that the die-off was “unprecedented.”

Next in line for concern are a huge number of the Lakes’ fish species. Warming water temperature often biologically triggers migration to traditional spawning grounds, and experts expect that northern pike, lake sturgeon, steelhead, and rainbow trout could make moves far later this year. As Shedd Aquarium research scientist Solomon David told Michigan Radio, later egg laying could mean younger and far weaker fish come next winter, leading to an even longer impact.

Other changes will come about long after the ice melts, as water levels are predicted to rebound to levels not seen in the last few years. Seasonal shifts in water levels, with winter lows and summer highs, are normal. “If things stayed in sort of a balance, we would see all the Lakes’ water levels going up and then going down. Every year: up, down; up, down,” says Drew Gronewold, a scientist with NOAA’s Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory. But, “when water levels change a lot over time, something is happening in one of those two parts of the season.”
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Why it’s a big deal that half of the Great Lakes are still covered in ice (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2014 OP
Interesting report Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #1
K&R. 2naSalit Apr 2014 #2
Grist should not have used . . FairWinds Apr 2014 #3
Thank you, more accurate. Editing for effect is not playing nice. Fred Sanders Apr 2014 #6
The Great Lakes are one of our planet's most precious resources! Thanks for posting! hue Apr 2014 #4
Thank you. dotymed Apr 2014 #5
Hmmmm, my 50 yo mind maybe slipping.... Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2014 #7
My slightly-older brain had similar thoughts. riqster Apr 2014 #9
Right? Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2014 #10
One thing I'm hoping for is that an ice bridge connecting Isle Royale to the mainland Aldo Leopold Apr 2014 #8
Can they not get across the past couple of months?? cbdo2007 Apr 2014 #11
The park service just monitors the populations of the wolf and the moose. postulater Apr 2014 #12
 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
3. Grist should not have used . .
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:16 AM
Apr 2014

that photo. It is out of date.
Lake Erie is mostly ice free now.
Not xchrom's fault, but that is lazy
journalism.
NOAA is your friend.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
5. Thank you.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:30 AM
Apr 2014

IMO, it is way more than interesting. It is very critical.
If "our" administration had "actionable intelligence" about highly increasing "terrorist" activity, they would move heaven and earth to
prevent it from occurring (so they say).
Too bad there is no profit in this chilling and actionable (at least in the long run) intel.
It seems that the real threat goes unchallenged once again. Not sexy or profitable enough (in the short run).

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
7. Hmmmm, my 50 yo mind maybe slipping....
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:37 AM
Apr 2014

but didn't I learn in elementary school that the Great Lakes froze over every year? What is unusual now is that they hadn't for awhile!

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
10. Right?
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:54 AM
Apr 2014

I grew up in Northern New York. I have an older buddy that grew up in Boston. We were talking about the snow storms in May we used to get.

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
8. One thing I'm hoping for is that an ice bridge connecting Isle Royale to the mainland
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:44 AM
Apr 2014

will be good for the dwindling population of wolves on the island. Either by allowing them to escape, or by luring mainland female wolves to the island. I could be wrong, but I believe there is only one female wolf left on Isle Royale.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
11. Can they not get across the past couple of months??
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 11:19 AM
Apr 2014

Or has the ice not stretched that far? I'm sure the National Park Service is on top of the situation though either way.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
12. The park service just monitors the populations of the wolf and the moose.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 12:27 PM
Apr 2014

They do no management as they consider this a natural phenomenon and are using the cycles as a study in population control.

Isle Royale is an amazing place.

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