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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:49 AM May 2014

Germany Reached Nearly 75% Renewable Power Use On Sunday

http://cleantechnica.com/2014/05/15/germany-reaches-nearly-75-renewable-power-use-sunday/



Germany Reached Nearly 75% Renewable Power Use On Sunday

En route to its 2050 Energiewende goal of 80% of the nation’s power being supplied by renewables, especially spurred on by the phaseout of nuclear reactors, Germany broke another renewable energy record on Sunday, May 11, 2014. Europe’s biggest clean-energy market reached almost 75% renewable power market share noon on that day.

As the Disruptive Renewables chart created by Renewables International that is featured on the right shows, electricity prices went negative for much of the afternoon.

Renewables hit another record in the first quarter 2014 by supplying 27%—over one quarter—of Germany’s electricity demand. Bloomberg reports that the German Association of Energy and Water Industries (BDEW), which represents 1,800 companies, calculated that renewable generators produced 40.2 billion kWh of electricity this past quarter, up from 35.7 billion kWh in the same period last year. BDEW attributes the achievement to additional installations and favorable weather.

Bernard ChabotBernard Chabot, a well-known renewable energy consultant based in France, sees the 27% figure as indicative of renewable energy’s potential, as Kiley Kroh of ThinkProgress reports:
“Once again, it was demonstrated that a modern electricity system such as the German one can already accept large penetration rates of variable but predictable renewable energy sources such as wind and solar PV power.”
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Germany Reached Nearly 75% Renewable Power Use On Sunday (Original Post) unhappycamper May 2014 OP
But..but...what about CORPORATE PROFITS!!???? OH NOES!!! loudsue May 2014 #1
I'm waiting for Monsanto to patent the wind (n/t) thesquanderer May 2014 #4
But, does Germany extend a helping hand to the Eurozone? Demeter May 2014 #2
Yes, not just the Eurozone, but Asia-Pac and Africa and more stevenleser May 2014 #8
Talk with an Eye towards Profits and Exports Demeter May 2014 #9
You should have read further down in the article. stevenleser May 2014 #11
Loans, I presume? Demeter May 2014 #12
It doesn't seem so. It seems to be grants. Here is what I found so far. stevenleser May 2014 #13
"Financing agreement" is a LOAN at interest Demeter May 2014 #15
Not necessarily. You seem to want to put a negative spin on this at every turn. stevenleser May 2014 #17
If you are making a profit, IT'S NOT "HELP" Demeter May 2014 #22
A loan to someone to keep them afloat when its not clear they can pay it back is help and risky help stevenleser May 2014 #24
I can see that you have no idea what Germany has been doing Demeter May 2014 #25
I know exactly what Germany has been doing and how some detractors try to spin it. stevenleser May 2014 #26
It is something that they show the world including the USA that it can be done and how. jwirr May 2014 #14
Yes and no FBaggins May 2014 #23
What Is The Excuse For America? cantbeserious May 2014 #3
Lobbyists. n/t unhappycamper May 2014 #5
Brevity is the soul of wit. JNelson6563 May 2014 #27
I was checking into starting a Solar Power business Dustlawyer May 2014 #6
Germany has seen the writing on the wall. Enthusiast May 2014 #7
It was Ronald Reagan who cold-cocked solar and wind generation 40 years ago Demeter May 2014 #10
What are does bioenergy, bioMSW and PV stand for? I am also assuming that they use energy jwirr May 2014 #16
Just a guess - Photo-Voltaic for solar? NewJeffCT May 2014 #20
That sounds correct. jwirr May 2014 #21
But, Germany is much sunnier than the US NewJeffCT May 2014 #18
I can only imagine where the US would be NewJeffCT May 2014 #19

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
1. But..but...what about CORPORATE PROFITS!!???? OH NOES!!!
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:05 AM
May 2014

The USA is being left in the dust by more progressive countries.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
2. But, does Germany extend a helping hand to the Eurozone?
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:06 AM
May 2014

Does Germany assist its allies in attaining such a state of grace?

Not that I've seen or heard.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
8. Yes, not just the Eurozone, but Asia-Pac and Africa and more
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:57 AM
May 2014
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2011/07/25/business/germany-to-assist-in-renewable-energy/

With 330 days of sunlight, more than 300 kilometers of a strong wind corridor, flowing rivers and vast agricultural lands; Pakistan is an ideal country to generate power from solar, wind, biogas and hydel sources. These were the views of German officials and experts in green energy as they talked to the Pakistani delegation consisting of Independent Project Development Facility (IPDF) CEO Adil Anwar, National Forum President & Energy Update Managing Editor Naeem Qureshi, Renewble Energy Society (Research) Chairman Dr Allah Nawaz Qaiserani and Secretary General Iftekhar Qaiseranion, former MNA Ghulam Murtaza Satti, Khushnood Shaikh from APP news agency & Dr Farhan from Water and Power Ministry during a recent visit to Germany on the invitation of German Foreign Office.
Purpose of the visit:
The purpose of the invitation was to help the Pakistani delegation understand what Germany could do for Pakistan in the alternative energy sector and what future possibilities could exist for Pak-German cooperation in the said area. Divisional Head for Cultural and Media Relations with Africa, Asia, Australia and the Pacific and Latin America Caribbean at the German Foreign Office Micheal Siebert said that great potential existed for cooperation between the two countries to capitalise alternative energy and Pakistan could do more with German assistance and expertise. “We are working with our partners in Europe, China, Africa and we also wish to do this in Pakistan. We want to transfer technology regarding solar energy”, he added. He said that Germany will cut its carbon emissions by 80 to 95 per cent by 2050 and improve its energy efficiency by 2.1 per cent.
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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. You should have read further down in the article.
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:06 AM
May 2014

Desk Officer for Afghanistan and Pakistan at the federal Ministry of Economic Cooperation and Development Torge Matthiesen said that Germany has contributed a total amount of 768 million euros to the energy sector in Pakistan.

He said that the total worth of finanlised programmes in the energy sector is about 527 million euros. Germany has provided over 200 million euros for the construction of various small and medium size hydel projects and installation and rehabilitation of transmission lines in Khyber Pakhtunkhawa during 2009-10. “We will provide another 48.5 million euros for the development of alternative energy and energy efficiency this year,” he added.

He said that out of this amount, about 100 million euros are for small and medium size hydel projects in KPK including Lavi, Trapphi, Basho, Harpo, Keyal Khawar while the rest is for laying transmission lines including those at Gakkhar and Gazi Roads.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
12. Loans, I presume?
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:10 AM
May 2014

God forbid, the Germans who are raping Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain, should actually GIVE AWAY a money-making opportunity...

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. It doesn't seem so. It seems to be grants. Here is what I found so far.
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:15 AM
May 2014
http://www.pakistan.diplo.de/Vertretung/pakistan/en/08__Development/0__Development__Projects/Energy/Harpo2.html

The Federal Republic of Germany through KfW Development Bank extended a Grant in Aid fund of Euro 650,000 to the Pakistan Government for conducting a Feasibility Study on harnessing hydropower potential in the Harpo Valley some 70km downstream of Skardu City. From the German side, the financing agreement over 20 Million EUR for constructing the Harpo Hydropower Project was signed in December last year.

Subsequently, the French development financing agency AFD joined hands for co-financing the project construction:
The French co-financing agreement was signed with the Government of Pakistan on April 3, 2014. Representatives of the German Embassy, KfW, EU, and the implementing agency WAPDA witnessed the occasion.
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Grant in aid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant-in-aid

A grant-in-aid is money coming from central government for a specific project. This kind of funding is usually used when the government and parliament have decided that the recipient should be publicly funded but operate with reasonable independence from the state.

In the United Kingdom, most bodies in receipt of grants-in-aid are non-departmental public bodies.[citation needed]

A grant-in-aid is funds allocated by one level of government to another level of government to be used for specific purposes. Such funds are usually accompanied by requirements and standards set by the governing body for how they are to be spent. An example of this would be how the United States Congress required states to raise the drinking age for alcohol from 18 to 21 in order for the individual states to continue to qualify for federal funds for interstate highways located within each state
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i.e., not a loan
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
15. "Financing agreement" is a LOAN at interest
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:22 AM
May 2014

The grant is the freebie to do the "feasibility" study. The lure for the fish.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. Not necessarily. You seem to want to put a negative spin on this at every turn.
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:24 AM
May 2014

Germany did not have to help those countries you mentioned and if those countries didn't like the arrangements, they could have refused to accept it.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
24. A loan to someone to keep them afloat when its not clear they can pay it back is help and risky help
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:46 AM
May 2014

at that.

Germany could have done a lot of things with that money internally. Neither they nor their government were irresponsible to begin with. It is not their fault that those countries screwed themselves up.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
25. I can see that you have no idea what Germany has been doing
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:49 AM
May 2014

and I don't have the interest in trying to bring you up to speed.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
26. I know exactly what Germany has been doing and how some detractors try to spin it.
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:53 AM
May 2014

And it is clear from your responses to me at every turn you have a serious bias against Germany for whatever reason.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
23. Yes and no
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:45 AM
May 2014

They are helping their neighbors increase the amount of renewables-generated electricity on their grids - because they need to dump that generation and someone has to take it for them. Isnt' that nice of them?

Oh... and it gets better. They pay the neighbors for the privelege and then pay them again when they have to buy electricity when the renewables aren't generating enough.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
6. I was checking into starting a Solar Power business
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:12 AM
May 2014

in Texas and it turns out the Electricians Lobby sewed it up. They make it hard to do to discourage these businesses with numerous restrictions to ownership, installation... They want us to burn every last drop of oil 1st!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
7. Germany has seen the writing on the wall.
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:36 AM
May 2014

The writing says: every nation on earth will soon be forced to acknowledge that human caused global climate change is a reality.

Pretending this isn't true, so the politically and financially connected can profit, will not change that reality.

That is why Al Gore called this phenomenon an inconvenient truth.

This is bad timing on the part of the United States of America. Exactly at the moment in history, when we should have kept corporate interference to a minimum, we chose to extend them every possible avenue to control the nation.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
10. It was Ronald Reagan who cold-cocked solar and wind generation 40 years ago
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:03 AM
May 2014

and the Asians stole the whole shebang for profits. The Germans installed it, the rest is history.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. What are does bioenergy, bioMSW and PV stand for? I am also assuming that they use energy
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:23 AM
May 2014

conservation as well.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
19. I can only imagine where the US would be
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:28 AM
May 2014

If we had followed Jimmy Carter's lead and plunged headlong into solar power, and other renewables, starting in the 70s. We'd probably have broken 75% before Germany...

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