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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:29 AM Mar 2015

"Things In California Are Even Worse Than You Realize"

If you don't find the fact that California is going into its fourth year of drought scary enough — it's the worst in 1,200 years, mind you — a water scientist from NASA just dropped a truth bomb that's absolutely terrifying: There's only about one year of water left in the state. Period.

"As difficult as it may be to face, the simple fact is that California is running out of water — and the problem started before our current drought," Jay Famiglietti, the senior water scientist at the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory/Caltech, writes in a Los Angeles Times op-ed. "NASA data reveal that total water storage in California has been in steady decline since at least 2002, when satellite-based monitoring began, although groundwater depletion has been going on since the early 20th century."

The worst part of all? There's no real plan in place for what happens next in a situation like this. Because California has always naturally bounced back from droughts in the past, everyone has been winging it, relying on groundwater and waiting for rain that hasn't come.


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"Things In California Are Even Worse Than You Realize" (Original Post) Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 OP
Wonder if they're still allowing fracking. dgibby Mar 2015 #1
I still can't believe we are talking California yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #2
That isn't true. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2015 #5
Fracking flew under the radar. My County -- Santa Barbara -- has been fighting Big Oil since 1969... Hekate Mar 2015 #7
You are correct padfun Mar 2015 #8
I'm not blaming the citizens. dgibby Mar 2015 #10
Yes, overpopulated and overdeveloped, and water projects made it all possible. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #12
Goleta managed to do what Cambria is doing for at least 20 crucial years Hekate Mar 2015 #13
Pray harder. blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #3
Or pray smarter riobravo Mar 2015 #6
My poor state! tblue Mar 2015 #4
There are already protests against Nestle's water-bottling operation starroute Mar 2015 #9
K&R nt Mnemosyne Mar 2015 #11
And y'all thought SLAVERY caused one nasty mother of a Civil War? Systematic Chaos Mar 2015 #14
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. I still can't believe we are talking California
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 02:57 AM
Mar 2015

It is the most progressive state in many ways, but is being an Ostrich with regard to water? Absolutely doesn't make sense.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,120 posts)
5. That isn't true.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:44 AM
Mar 2015

Every year during droughts in the past we conserved water. We were able to do so I think because we weren't suffering from heat of this magnitude. Fires have been off the charts as has the heat index. A very bad combo when trying conserve water.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
7. Fracking flew under the radar. My County -- Santa Barbara -- has been fighting Big Oil since 1969...
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 04:01 AM
Mar 2015

... and I had no idea until recently that at least one oil company here had been fracking. I have known for years that Big Oil considers us troublesome pipsqueaks with not nearly as much money to fight them as they have to fight us, but I thought our county had fought them to a draw. It's obvious they consider any attempt to fine or otherwise control them as just one more line-item in their budget.

Then I read about the group that had been persistently fouling a stream with runoff --- and that they were fracking, too. In SB County.

What I'm saying is, don't blame us, the citizenry, for fracking. As far as I am concerned, the bastards just do what they want and wait to get caught.

California is serious as a heart attack about water -- has been for well over a century: where it comes from, who controls it, who gets it. We've never had an oversupply. (Look up California's Water Wars.) The issue of conservation is newer, but not that recent. What we are by now is overpopulated -- but then, that is a problem all over the planet.

I don't know what we are going to do, frankly.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
8. You are correct
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:11 AM
Mar 2015

but most people think the world started when they were born. Hence they think that nothing has ever been done.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
10. I'm not blaming the citizens.
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:00 AM
Mar 2015

Sorry if I came across that way. I'm blaming the PTB, who will restrict water usage for the citizens while they're making money off the fracking industry and any other money making enterprise that wastes/pollutes the water.

I live in the Alleghany Highlands of Va., surrounded by the George Washington National Forest, and we're fighting Dominion Power and our own Rethuglican legislature to keep fracked gas pipelines out of our watershed.

These greedy bastards won't be happy until they ruin everything in their path.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
12. Yes, overpopulated and overdeveloped, and water projects made it all possible.
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:58 PM
Mar 2015

People seem to be blind or ignorant to the facts about water in California, about how many billions of acre-feet are moved around and how the biggest cities were founded on water projects.

SF gets it's water from the other side of the state, LA gets it from the Colorado River and the north.

It's all a bunch of massive projects:

Los Angeles Aqueduct, Central Valley Project, State Water Project, Delta Mendota canal California Aqueduct and more.

http://www.watereducation.org/all-california-water-sources

I like what the city of Cambria on the central coast has done: No new water meters. Period. That means if you really want to build a new home, you'll need to buy and old house and use it's meter.

In Santa Cruz County there is a similar crisis, but they haven't caught on yet. Even the environment-friendly county board has been approving new construction if the builders are willing to shell out $40,000 and more for a meter, same thing in Half Moon Bay.

But people think that all we need to do is build desalination plants.

Now I need to stop or I'll have an aneurism.

BTW, I'll be in Arroyo Grande this Wednesday and Thursday....

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
13. Goleta managed to do what Cambria is doing for at least 20 crucial years
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:06 PM
Mar 2015

We were slow-growthers by virtue of severely restricting new water meters. Unfortunately that's not a cure-all, but it did help.

Enjoy Arroyo Grande!

 

riobravo

(31 posts)
6. Or pray smarter
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:47 AM
Mar 2015

and most absolutely positively important of all,
make absolutely positively sure that
thou art praying to the absolutely positively right
one-and-only petty god who art in heaven...
or there shalt absolutely positively be hell to pay. sarcasm



tblue

(16,350 posts)
4. My poor state!
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:38 AM
Mar 2015

I remember 5 years ago it rained for 4 weeks straight. Our family hosted an exchange student and she hardly saw any sun. Now, I'm afraid to think of what's in store. I doubt it will be in only California though. Nevada and Arizona too. Is it still raining a lot in the Northwest? I hope so. May have to move there. We do a lot of things right here in CA, but there's only so much one state can control. Very very concerned.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. There are already protests against Nestle's water-bottling operation
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:59 AM
Mar 2015

First a breaking news item from a local Fox affiliate about the protest happening right now -- and then some background from earlier this week.

http://fox40.com/2015/03/20/happening-now-nestle-water-bottling-plant-protest-in-south-sacramento-more/

Protesters are trying to stop operations at the Nestle Water Bottling Plant off Florin-Perkins Road. Demonstrators gathered as early as 4:30 a.m. to stand up against the company’s water practices.

Water activists are arguing that the facility is draining up to 80 million gallons of water a year from Sacramento aquifers while the state is in a drought.


https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2015/03/17/18770053.php

The city of Sacramento is in the fourth year of a record drought - yet the Nestlé Corporation continues to bottle city water to sell back to the public at a big profit, local activists charge. ...

The coalition, the crunchnestle alliance, says that City Hall has made this use of the water supply possible through a "corporate welfare giveaway," according to a press advisory. ...

The coalition will release details of a protest on Friday, March 20, at the South Sacramento Nestlé plant designed to "shut down" the facility. The coalition is calling on Nestlé to pay rates commensurate with their enormous profit, or voluntarily close down.

"The coalition is protesting Nestlé's virtually unlimited use of water – up to 80 million gallons a year drawn from local aquifers – while Sacramentans (like other Californians) who use a mere 7 to 10 percent of total water used in the State of California, have had severe restrictions and limitations forced upon them," according to the coalition.

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
14. And y'all thought SLAVERY caused one nasty mother of a Civil War?
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 07:46 PM
Mar 2015

The one that's coming is going to be "everyone with a drop of water on that day" vs. "everyone without a drop of water on that day.'

You will experience the thrill of either:

Dying because you are dying, or...

Quite possibly dying because you are not quite dying!!

Now, how's that for an existence?

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