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cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:29 PM Apr 2015

Neoncotinoids

I have had a really hard time finding the name of the pesticides - the neoncotinoids killing bees - to avoid. Found this list online today, FYI.

http://www.xerces.org/neonicotinoids-and-bees/

Are Neonicotinoids Killing Bees?
A Review of Research into the Effects of Neonicotinoid Insecticides on Bees, with Recommendations for Action.

By Jennifer Hopwood, Mace Vaughan, Matthew Shepherd, David Biddinger, Eric Mader, Scott Hoffman Black, and Celeste Mazzacano.


A possible link between neonicotinoids and honey bee die-offs has led to controversy across the United States and Europe. Beekeepers and environmentalists have expressed growing concern about the impact of neonicotinoids, concern based on the fact that neonicotinoids are absorbed into plant tissue and can be present in pollen and nectar, making them toxic to pollinators.

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Some of the major findings of the report include:

Several of these insecticides are highly toxic to honey bees and bumblebees.

Neonicotinoid residues are found in pollen and nectar consumed by pollinators such as bees and butterflies. The residues can reach lethal concentrations in some situations.

Neonicotinoids can persist in soil for months or years after a single application. Measurable amounts of residues were found in woody plants up to six years after application.

Untreated plants may absorb chemical residues left over in the soil from the previous year.
Products approved for homeowners to use in gardens, lawns, and on ornamental trees have manufacturer-recommended application rates up to 120 times higher than rates approved for agricultural crops.

Examples of Neonicotinoid Garden Products Used in the United States

Neonicotinoid Garden & ornamental uses Garden product trademark names
Imidacloprid Seed dressing, soil drench, granules, injection, or spray to a wide range of ornamental plants, trees, and turf. Bayer Advanced 3-in-1 Insect, Disease, & Mite Control
Bayer Advanced 12 Month Tree & Shrub Insect Control
Bayer Advanced 12 Month Tree & Shrub Protect & Feed
Bayer Advanced Fruit, Citrus & Vegetable Insect Control
Bayer Advanced All-in-One Rose & Flower Care concentrate
DIY Tree Care Products Multi-Insect Killer
Ferti-lome 2-N-1 Systemic
Hi-Yield Systemic Insect Spray
Hunter
Knockout Ready-To-Use Grub Killer
Lesco Bandit
Marathon
Merit
Monterey Once a Year Insect Control II
Ortho Bug B Gon Year-Long Tree & Shrub Insect Control
Ortho MAX Tree & Shrub Insect Control
Surrender Brand GrubZ Out
Clothianidin Seed treatment, foliar spray or soil drench for turf, a variety of ornamental trees, and flowers. Bayer Advanced All-in-One Rose & Flower Care granules
Green Light Grub Control with Arena
Thiamethoxam Soil drench, injection, granules, or foliar spray to a wide range of ornamental plants and turf. Flagship
Maxide Dual Action Insect Killer
Meridian
Acetamiprid Foliar spray for fruits, vegetables, ornamental plants, and flowers. Ortho Flower, Fruit and Vegetable Insect Killer
Ortho Rose and Flower Insect Killer
Dinotefuran Soil drench or foliar spray to leafy & fruiting vegetables, turf, & ornamental plants. Green Light Tree & Shrub Insect Control with Safari 2 G
Safari
Transect
Zylam 20SG Systemic Turf Insecticide

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Neoncotinoids (Original Post) cilla4progress Apr 2015 OP
Extremely long list, unfortunately. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #1
you are welcome cilla4progress Apr 2015 #2
Never touch the stuff. Thanks for your research. roody Apr 2015 #3
I don't use insecticides, except on the dogs, when I must. hunter Apr 2015 #4
Cool stories. Thanks! cilla4progress Apr 2015 #5

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
1. Extremely long list, unfortunately.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:44 PM
Apr 2015

Love the words, "soil drench". UGH! Half of this stuff is for the almighty turf. I think I'll let the birds and shrews get the grubs for me, thank you very much.

Very helpful list. Thanks for your research and taking the time to do this.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
2. you are welcome
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 05:41 PM
Apr 2015

Ticks me off this list isn't more readily available. I wonder why.

When I walk into the local big box gardening stores...which I rarely do any more, I leave feeling ill from the smell of all the pesticides and herbicides. I've been gardening organically - including using manure on my pastures - for years.

From time to time (like this year) we will use an herbicide on our pasture weeds. I feel bad about it and should look more into what we use. It's hard to stay on top of everything.

Quit using chemical fertilizers when I noticed that the natural microbial populations were breaking down my horses' poop on a regular basis. My pastures aren't as lush as some, but I manage them carefully by rotating the horses around, cross-fencing, not over-grazing. There are some not as bad products out there. Just takes a little research. I still have a lot to learn.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
4. I don't use insecticides, except on the dogs, when I must.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 10:47 PM
Apr 2015

It's bad enough pulling ticks off the dogs, and worse pulling them off one's self, spouse, or kids.

Fleas are rarely a problem since we got rid of the carpets. Slate downstairs, engineered bamboo "wood" flooring upstairs. I think our house-and-garden ant, spider, and other invertebrate predator population finds flea eggs and flea juveniles quite tasty.

Our garden is very attractive to birds. There's always water for them to drink and bathe in and I put a scoop of bird feed out for them in the morning. Once they've eaten that, they go after the insects.

We used to have a huge problem with snails, the sort that came to California from France, but then in the early 2000's the starlings showed up, another import from Europe, and snails are no longer a problem.

Aphids were a problem too when we first moved here, but now the little birds eat them.

Sometimes I'll notice an aphid problem developing, think I might have to do something about it, and then just a day or two later the aphids are all gone. The little birds ate them.

The first house my wife and I bought had a severe problem with cockroaches. Turning on the kitchen light in the middle of the night, leaving dirty dishes in the sink, it was a nightmare. The previous owner had subscribed to a monthly pest control service. I suspect they killed all invertebrate life forms in the house but the most hardened, nastiest, pesticide resistant cockroaches, would then have many pesticide resistant babies.

I told the pest control guy I didn't have any money, which was true. He didn't come back. Within a year we had spiders in our house, and even more in the basement, but no cockroaches.

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