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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:08 AM Jul 2015

Solar and Wind Energy Consumption Tripled Under Obama

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/07/14/invisible-green-triumphs/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto&_r=1

Some things I’ve been reading lately remind me that there’s another major Obama initiative that is the subject of similar delusions: the promotion of green energy. Everyone on the right knows that the stimulus-linked efforts to promote solar and wind were a bust — Solyndra! Solyndra! Benghazi! — and in general they still seem to regard renewables as hippie-dippy stuff that will never go anywhere.

So it comes as something of a shock when you look at the actual data, and discover that solar and wind energy consumption has tripled under Obama.



True, it started from a low base, but green energy is no longer a marginal factor — and with solar panels experiencing Moore’s Law-type cost declines, we’re looking at a real transformation looking forward.

You can argue about how much this transformation owes to federal policy. But only a combination of rigid preconceptions and sheer ignorance can explain the way right-wingers still go around sniggering about Obama’s green-energy promotion. Far from being a bust, that policy was at least a contributing factor to an energy revolution.
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Solar and Wind Energy Consumption Tripled Under Obama (Original Post) eridani Jul 2015 OP
K&R! Sherman A1 Jul 2015 #1
I'd like to see some Moore's Law type drops in price at the retail level in solar. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #2
You may want to look again. Competition around here is wild. FailureToCommunicate Jul 2015 #3
It has happened..... Adrahil Jul 2015 #5
This is in line with what he told me 3 years ago DFW Jul 2015 #4
K&R. Yes please! Overseas Jul 2015 #6
Tripling the drilling in previously protected areas by letting Dutch Shell drill, finish burning the jtuck004 Jul 2015 #7
K & R! lonestarnot Jul 2015 #8

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. I'd like to see some Moore's Law type drops in price at the retail level in solar.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:27 AM
Jul 2015

I've been waiting for that sort of drop for a couple of decades now.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,018 posts)
3. You may want to look again. Competition around here is wild.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:43 AM
Jul 2015

Also consider asking solar providers about a PPA - a "power purchase agreement" if you want to have little out of pocket costs.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. It has happened.....
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:17 AM
Jul 2015

Back in the late-80's, early 90's, it cost $250K to buy enough 14% efficient solar cells to cover the back of our solar racer. Today, those same cells would cost less than $10K. That's a pretty dramatic price drop!

DFW

(54,420 posts)
4. This is in line with what he told me 3 years ago
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:47 AM
Jul 2015

He said he hoped to leave office with at least 15% of our total energy consumption coming from renewables, although he realized it was more of an ideal than a realistic goal.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
7. Tripling the drilling in previously protected areas by letting Dutch Shell drill, finish burning the
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jul 2015

place up, faster than one can build solar panels.

Perfect quote: "Change is good, but dollars are better." Anon

Some people just want to be fooled.

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