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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:52 PM Aug 2015

Corrected Sunspot History Suggests Climate Change since the Industrial Revolution not due to Natural

http://www.iau.org/news/pressreleases/detail/iau1508/
[font face=Serif]7 August 2015
[font size=5]Corrected Sunspot History Suggests Climate Change since the Industrial Revolution not due to Natural Solar Trends[/font]

[font size=4]The Sunspot Number, the longest scientific experiment still ongoing, is a crucial tool used to study the solar dynamo, space weather and climate change. It has now been recalibrated and shows a consistent history of solar activity over the past few centuries. The new record has no significant long-term upward trend in solar activity since 1700, as was previously indicated. This suggests that rising global temperatures since the industrial revolution cannot be attributed to increased solar activity. The analysis, its results and its implications for climate research were made public today at a press briefing at the International Astronomical Union (IAU) XXIX General Assembly, currently taking place in Honolulu, Hawai`i, USA.[/font]

[font size=3]The Maunder Minimum, between 1645 and 1715, when sunspots were scarce and the winters harsh, strongly suggests a link between solar activity and climate change. Until now there was a general consensus that solar activity has been trending upwards over the past 300 years (since the end of the Maunder Minimum), peaking in the late 20th century — called the Modern Grand Maximum by some (1).

This trend has led some to conclude that the Sun has played a significant role in modern climate change. However, a discrepancy between two parallel series of sunspot number counts has been a contentious issue among scientists for some time.

The two methods of counting the sunspot number — the Wolf Sunspot Number and the Group Sunspot Number (2) — indicated significantly different levels of solar activity before about 1885 and also around 1945. With these discrepancies now eliminated, there is no longer any substantial difference between the two historical records.

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The apparent upward trend of solar activity between the 18th century and the late 20th century has now been identified as a major calibration error in the Group Sunspot Number. Now that this error has been corrected, solar activity appears to have remained relatively stable since the 1700s (3).

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Corrected Sunspot History Suggests Climate Change since the Industrial Revolution not due to Natural (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Aug 2015 OP
somebody needs to tell Sen. Ron Johnson... riversedge Aug 2015 #1
YES--it was tea bagger JOHNSON>... riversedge Aug 2015 #2
Kick. Wish Republicans would read and learn. riversedge Aug 2015 #3
This implies the Maunder Minimum was less influenced by solar activity than previously thought NickB79 Aug 2015 #4
Abrupt onset of the Little Ice Age triggered by volcanism and sustained by sea-ice/ocean feedbacks OKIsItJustMe Aug 2015 #5

riversedge

(70,310 posts)
1. somebody needs to tell Sen. Ron Johnson...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:15 PM
Aug 2015

I may be mistaken but I think he was one to attribute climate change to sunspots.

riversedge

(70,310 posts)
2. YES--it was tea bagger JOHNSON>...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:18 PM
Aug 2015



http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/08/17/114106/ron-johnson-sunspots/


GOP WI Sen. candidate Ron Johnson claims ‘sunspot activity’ is the cause of extreme weather trends.

by Zaid Jilani Aug 17, 2010 1:21pm











Yesterday, Wisconsin businessman and U.S. Senate candidate for the Republican Party Ron Johnson gave a wide-ranging interview to the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel. Johnson, a global warming skeptic, detailed his views on climate change and explained that he believes that extreme weather occurring across the globe — like record flooding in Pakistan and massive forest fires in Russia — may not be a result of man-made global warming, and that it’s “far more likely that it’s just sunspot activity”:

A global warming skeptic, Johnson said extreme weather phenomena were better explained by sunspots than an overload of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, as many scientists believe. “I absolutely do not believe in the science of man-caused climate change,” Johnson said. “It’s not proven by any stretch of the imagination.” […]

“It’s far more likely that it’s just sunspot activity or just something in the geologic eons of time,” he said. Excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere “gets sucked down by trees and helps the trees grow,” said Johnson. Average Earth temperatures were relatively warm during the Middle Ages, Johnson said, and “it’s not like there were tons of cars on the road.”


NickB79

(19,274 posts)
4. This implies the Maunder Minimum was less influenced by solar activity than previously thought
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:48 AM
Aug 2015

And new research is implying it was more driven by volcanic eruptions.

Guess all those "a new ice age is imminent" claims the deniers throw out every year or two are even more full of shit than before.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
5. Abrupt onset of the Little Ice Age triggered by volcanism and sustained by sea-ice/ocean feedbacks
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:07 PM
Aug 2015
http://dx.doi.org/10.1029/2011GL050168
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Abrupt onset of the Little Ice Age triggered by volcanism and sustained by sea-ice/ocean feedbacks[/font]

First published: 31 January 2012
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[font size=4]Abstract[/font]

[font size=3][1] Northern Hemisphere summer temperatures over the past 8000 years have been paced by the slow decrease in summer insolation resulting from the precession of the equinoxes. However, the causes of superposed century-scale cold summer anomalies, of which the Little Ice Age (LIA) is the most extreme, remain debated, largely because the natural forcings are either weak or, in the case of volcanism, short lived. Here we present precisely dated records of ice-cap growth from Arctic Canada and Iceland showing that LIA summer cold and ice growth began abruptly between 1275 and 1300 AD, followed by a substantial intensification 1430–1455 AD. Intervals of sudden ice growth coincide with two of the most volcanically perturbed half centuries of the past millennium. A transient climate model simulation shows that explosive volcanism produces abrupt summer cooling at these times, and that cold summers can be maintained by sea-ice/ocean feedbacks long after volcanic aerosols are removed. Our results suggest that the onset of the LIA can be linked to an unusual 50-year-long episode with four large sulfur-rich explosive eruptions, each with global sulfate loading >60 Tg. The persistence of cold summers is best explained by consequent sea-ice/ocean feedbacks during a hemispheric summer insolation minimum; large changes in solar irradiance are not required.

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