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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:14 PM Aug 2015

We could reduce CO2 emissions 50% by 2030 without investing a single dollar

One of the interesting things about GDP is that making a dollar always requires the consumption of energy. And the consumption of energy (globally speaking) always entails the release of CO2. So it makes sense that if the world's GDP started to decline, CO2 emissions would decline as well.

Could the world's GDP start to slide? The likelihood is appearing greater all the time. Stock markets are slumping as commodity prices crash, China's economy is cratering, debt ratios around the world are soaring, and central banks appear to have run out the have run out of large-scale stimulus tools.

I decided to do a little thought experiment. What would happen to CO2 emissions if the world entered a depression similar to the Great Depression of the early 1930s, but somewhat longer-lasting?

I started with the key assumption that the CO2 intensity of GDP would remain constant over the period of the depression, so that the the percentage decline in CO2 emissions would track the percentage decline in GDP.

That initial assumption relies on an underlying assumption that the factors that have in the past reduced the carbon intensity of GDP (e.g. the renewable energy build-out and the increasing shift to service economies) would no longer be in play. Investment in new energy production facilities would stop, as they would no longer be needed; and the world would be too busy trying to survive to create more jobs in financial services and interior decorating.

I imagined a depression that began much like the Great Depression, with three years of low double-digit slides in GDP. this is followed by an attempted recovery that buys back some economic ground for a year or two, then a more gradual but long-lasting economic slide sets in, tapering off as 2030 approaches.

Here's what it looks like:



In this scenario, the steep economic slide begins next year, with three successive years of 11% declines in world GDP - about what the world experienced in 1929-1932. Those declines are followed by a year of recovery and a year of wide-eyed paralysis. After 2020 the longer, slower slide begins. It starts at 5% per year and gradually tapers off to 2% annual declines toward the end of the decade. Each year, CO2 emissions fall by the same percentage as the GDP.

By 2030, we would be emitting about half the CO2 we are today. This would happen without any requirement for renewable energy or nuclear power investments, and without the need for a single international agreement. Of course, GDP would have declined by half as well...

Now this is not a plan or a proposal. It's just a description of what would happen during an economic decline similar to one we have already experienced in the past.

Unlike the "extend-and-pretend" of the international climate conferences, or the wishful thinking of the renewable energy advocates, this process can be guaranteed to work. And a quick look at the stock, bond and commodity markets should tell you that the chance of it happening is actually fairly good.

So there is hope for the biosphere after all.

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We could reduce CO2 emissions 50% by 2030 without investing a single dollar (Original Post) GliderGuider Aug 2015 OP
Here's a metaphor that may help explain what I meant. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #1
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
1. Here's a metaphor that may help explain what I meant.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:50 AM
Aug 2015

For those who don't know my position very well, and in light of the fact that sarcasm and irony are often missed or misinterpreted on the interwebz, perhaps some clarification is in order.

This post is an ironic way of saying that the only thing that will slow our carbon release significantly is a global economic collapse triggered by excessive social complexity and climate change. Nothing else will do it. Unfortunately, that collapse appears to be under way.

The human experiment is caught in what I call a carbon trap. Our continued existence depends on the very thing that is killing us: the combustion of the planet's ancient carbon stocks.

We are in a cell whose bars are made of carbon. The door swung closed when the atmosphere reached 300 ppm of CO2, and the lock snapped shut 50 ppm later. There is no key that will re-open it.

The trap was constructed well outside of our conscious view or understanding.

It was designed by our evolved desires for status, material comfort and security.

It was built with the best of intentions by well-meaning scientists and engineers whose knowledge of the consequences was both incomplete and obfuscated by their own evolved desires.

The strength of the bars comes from the thermodynamics of carbon combustion - an energetic process with a very steep gradient. Once we descend that gradient we would have to harness over twice the energy to climb back up again. We need the energy to keep things running (which is the reason we burned the carbon in the first place), the same amount of energy to break the chemical bonds and turn the CO2 back into harmless carbon and oxygen, and a little more to pay the Pied Piper of Entropy.

Most of us distract ourselves by creating and admiring elaborate appointments for our carbon-clad prison.

Most of those who are aware of the bars spend their time dreaming of ways to slip through them into the world they can see outside. They face one insurmountable problem. While the light of awareness can slip between the carbon bars, our bodies cannot.

Those who are fully aware of the trap understand that we now need it to survive. We are collective victims of what complex systems scientists call "path dependence": where we came from and how we got here limits what is now possible for us to do.

One of the things we can't to is simply to open the door and leave. Even the fact that our carbon-barred prison is now on fire can't change the cold equations. We need to wait until the very walls burn down, when a few soot-blackened survivors may stumble out into the blasted and barren landscape left behind by the construction project.

Have a nice weekend.

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