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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:13 PM Jan 2016

Our semi-privatized energy grid

Centralized green energy or decentralized green energy?
I think this is the real question.

Big solar and wind farms are favored by private interests. The big monied Wall St interests. The reason is that it perpetuates the ever increasing consumer electric bill. Us consumers remain beholden to an energy company, it's share holders, and it's profit margins under this model.

Instead of putting thousands of PV panels in the desert for instance I favor rooftop PV. Rooftop would relieve both the environment AND the consumer's electric bill plus the huge line loss via transmission cables is all but eliminated.

But alas...sadly we've allowed for privatization and they have other plans to keep us addicted to their rates.

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Our semi-privatized energy grid (Original Post) SHRED Jan 2016 OP
Agreed. Wilms Jan 2016 #1
Not a problem if we go back to the days of old in which OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #2
That will happen shortly after widespread fusion energy is freely available ... Nihil Jan 2016 #5
It's not that simple. Gregorian Jan 2016 #3
You're right, line loss transmission is a problem. Duppers Jan 2016 #4
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
1. Agreed.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jan 2016

But wouldn't we still need large scale producers for industry and things like apartment buildings in urban centers? Not that those couldn't be public utilities.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
2. Not a problem if we go back to the days of old in which
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jan 2016

utilities were highly regulated by public utility commissions which set maximum rates and maximum fair returns on investment. Gouging was prevented. It could happen again if the Democratic Party would stop sucking up to Wall Street.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
5. That will happen shortly after widespread fusion energy is freely available ...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:56 AM
Jan 2016

> It could happen again if the Democratic Party would stop sucking up to Wall Street.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
3. It's not that simple.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jan 2016

First off, line losses are from alternating current, and capacitance to ground is mostly due to very high voltages.

Individual systems approach is inefficient. Larger is almost always more efficient, even if it's just thermal. Plus, inverters at every house, along with lots of other things, is problematic from many aspects.

I am not an electrical engineer, so I can't say what configuration comes out of solar array sites. I don't know if dc lines come out of the big solar arrays. I think they are close enough to the source that they can invert it at the site, and use the existing grid.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
4. You're right, line loss transmission is a problem.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jan 2016

They cannot collect on personal rooftop panels. Yep, that's the problem for the big $$$ wigs.

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