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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:29 PM Feb 2016

50MW wind turbines with 650ft blades

Last edited Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:59 AM - Edit history (1)

Gigantic Wind Turbine With 650 Foot Blades Will Channel the Power of Hurricanes

Maddie Stone

The DOE wants to step up its wind energy game in a big way. And I mean big. Sandia National Laboratories has been tasked with the challenge of designing an offshore wind turbine that can spin out 50 megawatts of carbon-free juice—using 650 foot blades that harness the fiercest winds on Earth.

Take a second to try and picture that. 650 feet is just shy of two football fields. It’s a hundred feet higher than the Washington Monument. And it’s about five times longer than the rotor blades of most offshore wind turbines today, which produce power in the 1-2 megawatt range. (Japan is currently a leader in massive offshore wind structures, with a 7 megawatt beast of a turbine that sports 270 foot-long blades.)

It sounds damn ambitious, but if we want to start generating wind energy at scale, we need to dream big.

And nobody’s better equipped to take on the challenge than Sandia, where engineers have already fleshed out designs for a 13 megawatt turbine featuring 328 foot-long blades. The new “exascale” turbine would essentially be a bigger version of that model, which includes bio-inspired design elements aimed at channeling the world’s most powerful winds.



More at: http://gizmodo.com/gigantic-wind-turbine-with-650-foot-blades-will-channel-1755931181
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50MW wind turbines with 650ft blades (Original Post) kristopher Feb 2016 OP
Naaaaaaaaaah.... tazkcmo Feb 2016 #1
That would be fascinating to read about (when more information is available). Nihil Feb 2016 #2
Did you go to Sandia's site? kristopher Feb 2016 #3
No, just the one linked in the OP. Nihil Feb 2016 #4
Exajoules of energy!!!111 jpak Feb 2016 #5

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
1. Naaaaaaaaaah....
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:59 PM
Feb 2016

Too hard. Too difficult. Too unrealistic. Don't even try. Pony. Dreamers. No We Can't.

Or ignore the nay sayers and go for it! When you shoot for the stars and fail you usually still hit a home run.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
2. That would be fascinating to read about (when more information is available).
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:41 AM
Feb 2016

I worked on data processing for the British Wind Energy Group back in the
mid-80s and the most critical strain gauge data we shuffled was for the
20 metre blades - i.e., 1/10th of the size of the proposed 650' blades!

The stresses on a 650' blade would be phenomenal, especially at rest
and at high speed.

I see the novel approach of blade being used:
> The blades will also be segmented, allowing them to fold in at high wind
> speeds to minimize the risk of damage. On calmer days, the turbine would
> fan out to its jaw-dropping, 1300-foot span in order to maximize energy production.
> The entire system is similar to a palm tree, which, by shuttering up and
> facing the wind during hurricanes, can withstand gusts of up to 200 miles per hour.

The big difference between the palm tree and the wind turbine is that the palm
tree fronds aren't rotating faster & faster as the wind speed increases ... the
force driving outwards from the hub to the tip *increases* with higher winds
so the "folding mechanism" will have to not just overcome the flexing weight of
the blade itself but also additionally counteract that outward force - and do that
without adding so much weight to the blade that it raises the internal stress to
unmanageable limits.

It will be very interesting to see how they propose to do this - a real "Holy Grail"
combination of materials technology & solid engineering.

Thanks for posting it.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
3. Did you go to Sandia's site?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:10 AM
Feb 2016

Here is the press release. In it, there is a link in the 4th paragraph to the Offshore Wind Energy Program. I saw a register-to-download info packet there which might be of interest.

Gov Press release.

Sandia Labs News Releases
January 28, 2016

Enormous blades could lead to more offshore energy in U.S.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A new design for gigantic blades longer than two football fields could help bring offshore 50-megawatt (MW) wind turbines to the United States and the world.

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https://www.flickr.com/photo.gne?short=DmM7Pm
Todd Griffith
Todd Griffith shows a cross-section of a 50-meter blade, which is part of the pathway to the 200-meter exascale turbines being planned under a DOE ARPA-E-funded program. The huge turbines could be the basis for 50-megawatt offshore wind energy installations in the years ahead. (Photo by Randy Montoya)


Sandia National Laboratories’ research on the extreme-scale Segmented Ultralight Morphing Rotor (SUMR) is funded by the Department of Energy’s (DOE) Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy program. The challenge: Design a low-cost offshore 50-MW turbine requiring a rotor blade more than 650 feet (200 meters) long, two and a half times longer than any existing wind blade.

The team is led by the University of Virginia and includes Sandia and researchers from the University of Illinois, the University of Colorado, the Colorado School of Mines and the National Renewable Energy Laboratory. Corporate advisory partners include Dominion Resources, General Electric Co., Siemens AG and Vestas Wind Systems.

“Exascale turbines take advantage of economies of scale,” said Todd Griffith, lead blade designer on the project and technical lead for Sandia’s Offshore Wind Energy Program.

Sandia’s previous work on 13-MW systems uses 100-meter blades (328 feet) on which the initial SUMR designs are based. While a 50-MW horizontal wind turbine is well beyond the size of any current design, studies show that load alignment can dramatically reduce peak stresses and fatigue on the rotor blades. This reduces costs and allows construction of blades big enough for a 50-MW system.

Most current U.S. wind turbines produce power in the 1- to 2-MW range, with blades about 165 feet (50 meters) long, while the largest commercially available turbine is rated at 8 MW with blades 262 feet (80 meters) long.

“The U.S. has great offshore wind energy potential, but offshore installations are expensive, so larger turbines are needed to capture that energy at an affordable cost,” Griffith said.

Barriers remain before designers can scale up to a 50-MW turbine — more than six times the power output of the largest current turbines.

“Conventional upwind blades are expensive to manufacture, deploy and maintain beyond 10-15 MW. They must be stiff, to avoid fatigue and eliminate the risk of tower strikes in strong gusts. Those stiff blades are heavy, and their mass, which is directly related to cost, becomes even more problematic at the extreme scale due to gravity loads and other changes,” Griffith said.

He said the new blades could be more easily and cost-effectively manufactured in segments, avoiding the unprecedented-scale equipment needed for transport and assembly of blades built as single units.

The exascale turbines would be sited downwind, unlike conventional turbines that are configured with the rotor blades upwind of the tower.

SUMR’s load-alignment is bio-inspired by the way palm trees move in storms. The lightweight, segmented trunk approximates a series of cylindrical shells that bend in the wind while retaining segment stiffness. This alignment radically reduces the mass required for blade stiffening by reducing the forces on the blades using the palm-tree inspired load-alignment approach.

Segmented turbine blades have a significant advantage in parts of the world at risk for severe storms, such as hurricanes, where offshore turbines must withstand tremendous wind speeds over 200 mph. The blades align themselves to reduce cantilever forces on the blade through a trunnion hinge near the hub that responds to changes in wind speed.

“At dangerous wind speeds, the blades are stowed and aligned with the wind direction, reducing the risk of damage. At lower wind speeds, the blades spread out more to maximize energy production.” Griffith said.

Moving toward exascale turbines could be an important way to meet DOE’s goal of providing 20 percent of the nation’s energy from wind by 2030, as detailed in its recent Wind Vision Report.
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