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Beringia

(4,316 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 04:51 PM Mar 2019

Has anyone heard about the Yulin dog eating festival in China


I took the plunge after seeing a post about it on Facebook and it was the worst animal abuse story I have ever heard. They boil dogs alive, skin them alive, beat them to improve the taste of their meat. I read several threads about it on Quora and people saying dogs are different especially because they have a unique bond with humans, where they truly love humans. And then many Chinese saying it is a cultural difference and Westerners eat pigs, sheep and cows. But there is absolutely no defense of torturing the dogs. Many people said, the festival will probably eventually end and that younger Chinese are not as into eating dog meat as the older generation.
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Has anyone heard about the Yulin dog eating festival in China (Original Post) Beringia Mar 2019 OP
Terrible. Lisa Vanderpump has been organizing protests against it for years. steventh Mar 2019 #1
Nice to know Beringia Mar 2019 #3
I don't think any animal deserves protection over another California_Republic Mar 2019 #2
That's true Beringia Mar 2019 #4
Also I do think it helps to bring awareness to these issues Beringia Mar 2019 #5
I very much support your post! Duppers Mar 2019 #8
Thanks! Beringia Mar 2019 #10
If you don't differentiate animals Duppers Mar 2019 #9
This is self-serving nonsense. athena Mar 2019 #12
americans boil live lobsters and other shell animals. nt msongs Mar 2019 #6
Yes I read that point being made, also cruel Beringia Mar 2019 #7
All these threads about what's happening to animals Americans don't eat athena Mar 2019 #11
I don't think awareness can ever hurt. Beringia Mar 2019 #13
Veganism is not about guilt. Quite the contrary. athena Mar 2019 #14

steventh

(2,143 posts)
1. Terrible. Lisa Vanderpump has been organizing protests against it for years.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:32 PM
Mar 2019

She opened a shelter and tries to save as many dogs as she can. She made a documentary. There's a trailer on youtube. I had to stop watching at 28 seconds. Terrible.

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
2. I don't think any animal deserves protection over another
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:39 PM
Mar 2019

Veal is sad.
Chickens stuck inside their whole life

We don’t need to go to China to find animal cruelty

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
4. That's true
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:46 PM
Mar 2019

I try to be aware of the bigger picture of animals in the whole world, at least to be informed about each situation of abuse.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
5. Also I do think it helps to bring awareness to these issues
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:57 PM
Mar 2019

Many people react to having a stigma of wrong behavior and will change. Younger Chinese will read about this on the internet. I think we can influence China to advance in their treatment of animals. Right now China has no laws at all against animal cruelty.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
8. I very much support your post!
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:12 PM
Mar 2019

Yes I have heard and seen pictures of China's dog meat festival. It breaks my heart.

(There's more I'd like to say but I'd be accused of things.)


Duppers

(28,125 posts)
9. If you don't differentiate animals
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:25 PM
Mar 2019

Then why would you differentiate people from animals?
We're just a different animal. Do we
deserves protection over other animals? Other primates?
Would you differentiate bonobos or mountain gorillas?

You're a vegan, I would guess. That's a strong stance that I've failed to employ, so the 2nd, lesser evil choice in my mind is to differentiate. I feel sad feeding red meat to my dogs, but I do. I feel less sad about the chicken. But also am sad for the little mouse my husband caught in a trap. At least it wasn't an F'n glue trap.

I'm all over the place here, so I'll shut up.


athena

(4,187 posts)
12. This is self-serving nonsense.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:45 PM
Mar 2019

Just because you cause some suffering to animals doesn’t make it OK to cause thousands of times more suffering.

Veganism is not about being perfect. It’s about reducing the suffering one causes animals as much as possible. When you go vegan, you avoid causing the torture and killing of hundreds of animals each year. That is not undone by killing a fly or a nasty-looking spider.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
7. Yes I read that point being made, also cruel
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:16 PM
Mar 2019


For me personally, boiling a dog is much more cruel, it takes about 2 hours, from what I have read.

athena

(4,187 posts)
11. All these threads about what's happening to animals Americans don't eat
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:40 PM
Mar 2019

seem incredibly hypocritical. I often wonder if the poster of such a post eats pigs and chickens. No one who pays hard-earned money to support the torture and killing of pigs, cows, and chickens is in any position to criticize other countries for torturing and eating dogs, cats, or horses.

If you care about animals, first look at your own actions. Stop eating animals. Stop paying for their exploitation. You will find, after just a few weeks, that you feel more peaceful and in harmony with nature than you ever have. And you will know that no matter what horrible things may be happening out there, at least you are not a part of it.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
13. I don't think awareness can ever hurt.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:47 PM
Mar 2019

It could lead to someone becoming a vegetarian. Your post is so rude.

I should add I do eat a hamburger very rarely, which I feel guilty about and am trying to stop. But reading about animals only brings me more solidly to not eat any animal.

athena

(4,187 posts)
14. Veganism is not about guilt. Quite the contrary.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:36 PM
Mar 2019

Feeling guilty does nothing for animals. It only makes you feel better about yourself. You support the torture and slaughter of an innocent animal who wanted to be free; you enjoy your burger; then you talk online about how guilty you felt to distinguish yourself as superior to everyone else who ate a hamburger today.

This is the vegan, vegetarian and animal rights forum, and the vast majority of the threads are about dogs, cats, and whales. After years of watching it without saying anything, I finally decide I’ve had enough of the hypocrisy, and I’m criticized by a non-vegan for being rude!

There is nothing rude about pointing out hypocrisy. Anyone who is driven to keep supporting the torture and killing of animals because of my post is just trying to shift the responsibility for their actions onto others.

It’s not that hard to say no to exploitation and suffering. If you really want to do the right thing, you will do it.

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