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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:15 AM Apr 2016

Saudi king's visit overshadowed by Egyptian islands row

Saudi King Salman's trip to Egypt was meant to display the strength of ties between the two allies. But Cairo's transfer of two Red Sea islands to Riyadh during the visit stung Egyptian pride and drew criticism of what some saw as excessive Saudi influence.

The visit was meant to bury claims that diverging priorities in Yemen and Syria had damaged relations and demonstrate that Egypt and Saudi Arabia were vital to each other's security.

But after five days of official obsequiousness towards the 80-year-old monarch and no sign of any direct Saudi aid money, Saturday's news on the islands overshadowed the visit's original purpose.

Outraged Egyptians accused their once-popular president, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, of giving up land to curry favour with the Saudis.

http://in.reuters.com/article/egypt-saudi-ties-idINKCN0XA19A

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Saudi king's visit overshadowed by Egyptian islands row (Original Post) bemildred Apr 2016 OP
Egypt Protests After El-Sissi Gives Islands to Saudi Arabia bemildred Apr 2016 #1
Dealmaking going on with unexpected partners? KoKo Apr 2016 #2
They need money, the Egyptian government. bemildred Apr 2016 #3
I suspect the deal was done to allow the bridge between the 2 countries to go ahead muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #4

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. Egypt Protests After El-Sissi Gives Islands to Saudi Arabia
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

Egyptian security forces fired tear gas Friday at demonstrators protesting President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi's decision to hand over two Red Sea islands to Saudi Arabia. Chants of "leave, leave!" directed at el-Sissi marked the first significant wave of street protests since the former army chief became president in 2014.

Riot police first cracked down on protesters in Cairo's twin city of Giza, where demonstrators had gathered at two prominent mosques after Friday prayers and started marching toward Tahrir Square downtown. Many carried signs reading, "Land is Honor" and denouncing the surrender of the islands. Others chanted, "The people want the fall of the regime" and "Down with military rule!"

After police fired tear gas, the protesters ran in all directions, according to videos posted online by activists. Several photojournalists covering the protests were briefly detained near al-Istiqama mosque in Giza, according to witnesses at the scene who spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared for their own safety.

All unauthorized demonstrations in Egypt are illegal and security forces have, in the past, used lethal force against peaceful demonstrators.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/egypt-beefs-security-ahead-anti-government-cairo-rally-38419606

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. Dealmaking going on with unexpected partners?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:50 PM
Apr 2016
NWO?

Cartoons on social media showed the Sphinx in a traditional Gulf Arab headdress while the front page of Al Maqal newspaper asked: "Are we living the years of the Saudi Republic of Egypt?"

On Twitter, the hashtag "I feel like selling what to Saudi Arabia" trended on Tuesday, with commentators suggesting Egypt flog everything from self-serving lawmakers to Sisi himself.

Beyond the trip's public relations debacle, Sisi faces uncomfortable questions about the future of relations between the two countries as Saudi largesse is shrinking and Egypt appears to have little to offer in return.

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In a speech, Sisi said Egypt did not want to cause problems with Saudi Arabia by refusing to return its land and repeatedly beseeched his audience to stop questioning the move.

"I'm not taking this issue personally at all ... but please let's not talk about this issue again," he said.

But even Egyptians who were willing to accept the islands as Saudi property were upset that Israel was consulted in advance -- the islands are entangled in Egypt's 1979 peace deal with Israel -- but the Egyptian people and parliament were not.

The announcement was buried at the bottom of a cabinet statement issued late on Saturday, giving the impression that the government had hoped no one would notice.

"What hurts most is the phone call to Tel Aviv that came before everything, and these massive headlines in the most important newspaper in Egypt reassuring Israel before explaining anything to the Egyptian people," prominent journalist Yosri Fouda wrote on his Facbook page.

The next day, King Salman visited parliament, where lawmakers waved the Saudi flag and repeatedly interrupted proceedings with thunderous applause and impromptu poetry recitals. Above the parliament building, next to the Egyptian flag, fluttered the green banner of Saudi Arabia.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. They need money, the Egyptian government.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:53 AM
Apr 2016

This is why debt is a trap. Kiss your sovereignty goodbye.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,367 posts)
4. I suspect the deal was done to allow the bridge between the 2 countries to go ahead
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141407891

When I saw that the most likely place for the bridge (which had been proposed before) was via one of the disputed islands, I thought "they'll have to sort out sovereignty to get this to work". If Saudi Arabia gets the islands, maybe they'll pay for all of the bridge.

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