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elleng

(130,973 posts)
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 04:01 PM Jul 2016

Theresa May suggests Brexit delay as she says no Article 50 until Scotland gives go-ahead.

'Theresa May has indicated that Brexit could be delayed as she said she will not trigger the formal process for leaving the EU until there is an agreed “UK approach” backed by Scotland.

The Prime Minister on Friday travelled to Scotland to meet Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister, and discuss plans for Britain’s Brexit negotiation.

In a sign that the new Prime Minister is committed to keeping the Union intact, she said she will not trigger Article 50 – the formal process for withdrawing from the EU – until all the devolved nations in the country agree.'>>>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/theresa-may-flies-to-edinburgh-to-tell-scots-that-she-believes-w/

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Theresa May suggests Brexit delay as she says no Article 50 until Scotland gives go-ahead. (Original Post) elleng Jul 2016 OP
IOW, it'll happen when hell freezes over Warpy Jul 2016 #1
And if Scotland insists it wants to remain in the EU? SheilaT Jul 2016 #2
Nope... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #10
Alas, poor Scotland! SheilaT Jul 2016 #11
And scapegoat may have not been the right word... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #12
Is there any chance that Scotland might use this SheilaT Jul 2016 #13
I don't know awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #14
Scotland won't give the go-ahead, so Brexit won't happen. Koinos Jul 2016 #3
EU may not be willing to wait Sanity Claws Jul 2016 #4
The EU cannot push them out. Koinos Jul 2016 #16
and between now and then what is Britain's status? rurallib Jul 2016 #5
I'm telling you, it will never happen bluestateguy Jul 2016 #6
LOL, that's a good chess move. Schema Thing Jul 2016 #7
It is. I might have to revise my opinion of the Tories. Warpy Jul 2016 #8
I don't believe that Scotland BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #9
The deal will be 2nd Scottish referendum with fast track EU membership geek tragedy Jul 2016 #15
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
12. And scapegoat may have not been the right word...
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sat Jul 16, 2016, 10:42 PM - Edit history (1)

I think they will say "we can't pull out, because Scotland doesn't want to", then walk away breathing a sigh of relief.

on edit: Maybe I shouldn't equate them, but Scottish secessionists in some ways remind me of the ones in Texas. They make big noise about separation, but they know that it is not in their economic interest to do so. Should England pull out, that may change the equation (but then I don't know enough about it)

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
3. Scotland won't give the go-ahead, so Brexit won't happen.
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jul 2016

I think Theresa May just found a way out of her difficult position.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
16. The EU cannot push them out.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jul 2016

That is one of the essential rules (and oddities) of the agreement. Leaving the union can only be triggered by a member nation itself initiating exit by invoking Article 50. The EU cannot compel any nation to exit. There are exceptions of course, such as cases of grievous human rights violations; but the UK has not been guilty of anything that would allow the EU to forcibly oust them. So it all depends on what the UK does or does not do.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
9. I don't believe that Scotland
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

will agree to ANY Brexit and Northern Ireland also needs to be considered. Wales is having major second thoughts, from what I hear, but Wales got it wrong in the referendum so tough toenails to any do-over for them.

As some have noted, it may be the EU that will actually pull the carpet out from under the pussyfooting, i.e., either p*** or get off the pot altogether. There has been longtime below-the-radar simmering for years at the UK's hissyfits, as expressed by the loathsome Nigel Farage and other UKIP reps in the European Parliament.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. The deal will be 2nd Scottish referendum with fast track EU membership
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 12:38 AM
Jul 2016

in exchange for going along with the Brexit in a prompt manner.

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