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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Tue May 30, 2023, 01:06 PM May 2023

Malaysia detains Chinese ship suspected of looting British WW2 wrecks

Source: BBC

Malaysia detains Chinese ship suspected of looting British WW2 wrecks

30 May 2023

By Hannah Ritchie
BBC News

Malaysia has detained a Chinese-registered vessel suspected of looting two British World War Two shipwrecks.

The bulk carrier was seized on Sunday for anchoring illegally at the site in the South China Sea.

Ammunition believed to be from the HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse, which were sunk by Japanese forces more than 80 years ago, was then found on board.

The UK Ministry of Defence had earlier condemned the alleged raid as a "desecration" of maritime war graves.

Old shipwrecks are targeted by scavengers for their rare low-background steel, also known as "pre-war steel". The low radiation in the steel makes it a rare and valuable resource for use in medical and scientific equipment.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65750908

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Malaysia detains Chinese ship suspected of looting British WW2 wrecks (Original Post) Eugene May 2023 OP
Had no idea what low-backround steel actually was. Found this article Cheezoholic May 2023 #1
Is it illegal? Then it's not looting. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #2
These ships are war graves. This is grave robbing. Eugene May 2023 #3
Laws of many countries don't apply to international waters, The Titanic is in such waters. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #4
1. RMS Titanic was a civilian vessel. 2. International law applies to warships and their wrecks. Eugene May 2023 #5
Though this is not in international waters muriel_volestrangler Jun 2023 #6
110km away from land...is international waters. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #7
EEZ extends to 200 nm muriel_volestrangler Jun 2023 #8
Been long time, no bodies or bones, and for sure no meat! Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #9
I haven't the fuck of an idea what you're wittering on about now muriel_volestrangler Jun 2023 #10
Edgy is bad? Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #11
Every one of your posts makes you look worse (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2023 #12

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
3. These ships are war graves. This is grave robbing.
Tue May 30, 2023, 03:22 PM
May 2023

These shipwrecks are protected by the laws of many countries.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
4. Laws of many countries don't apply to international waters, The Titanic is in such waters.
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:16 PM
May 2023

Like this:

https://www.tripsavvy.com/titanic-wreck-expedition-5088082

How is taking metal or anything else from any shipwrecks in international waters…illegal?

As matter fact done all the time for the non radiation contaminated metals for science and medical research.

it’s a warship..doesn’t make it a holy site…all shipwrecks are graveyards….like the titanic…soldiers get special treatment??

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
5. 1. RMS Titanic was a civilian vessel. 2. International law applies to warships and their wrecks.
Wed May 31, 2023, 10:14 PM
May 2023

The laws of the sea are not 100% clear, but the wrecks HMS Hood and HMS Repulse are recognized as protected by law as military graves and as culturally significant sites.

This kind of looting has been happening for years. Looters getting caught is the exception here.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
8. EEZ extends to 200 nm
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 02:49 PM
Jun 2023
https://www.noaa.gov/maritime-zones-and-boundaries

Look, you may not care about dead bodies, but most of the world does. The world has cultural values about them, even if you see them as irrelevant meat.
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. Been long time, no bodies or bones, and for sure no meat!
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 02:56 PM
Jun 2023

War made these graveyards, if anyone wants to put a peace memorial buoy in the area, that’s ok.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
10. I haven't the fuck of an idea what you're wittering on about now
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 03:00 PM
Jun 2023

But if you think if makes you look "edgy", you're wrong. Just read something about how people feel about the bodies of their predecessors, if you are unaware of human society.

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