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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 07:22 PM Feb 12

Russia Uses Zircon Hypersonic Missile in Ukraine for First Time, Researchers Say

Source: Reuters

Russia Uses Zircon Hypersonic Missile in Ukraine for First Time, Researchers Say

By Reuters
Feb. 12, 2024, at 2:23 p.m.

(Reuters) - A preliminary analysis concluded that Russia hit Kyiv last week with the hypersonic Zircon missile, its first use in the nearly two-year-old war, the head of a Kyiv research institute said on Monday, presenting a new challenge to Ukraine's air defences.

Oleksandr Ruvin, director of the Kyiv Scientific-Research Institute for Forensic Examinations, said on his Telegram channel that his institute completed a preliminary analysis of missile fragments from a Russian attack on Feb. 7.

He included a video of alleged missile wreckage showing specific markings. "In this case, we see elements that are characteristic of the 3M22 Zircon missile. Parts and fragments of the engine and steering mechanisms have specific markings," he wrote.

The Russian defence ministry did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

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Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-02-12/russia-uses-zircon-hypersonic-missile-in-ukraine-for-first-time-researchers-say

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Russia Uses Zircon Hypersonic Missile in Ukraine for First Time, Researchers Say (Original Post) Eugene Feb 12 OP
sounds like a desperation move to me... ret5hd Feb 12 #1
Why would deploying advanced tech be a desperate move? Voltaire2 Feb 12 #3
The cost of the missile is reputed to be over $200 million Emrys Feb 13 #4
Putin's Russia is the world's cancer. The Unmitigated Gall Feb 12 #2

ret5hd

(20,492 posts)
1. sounds like a desperation move to me...
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 07:38 PM
Feb 12

different thoughts anyone?

(i’m no tactical expert by any means)

Voltaire2

(13,042 posts)
3. Why would deploying advanced tech be a desperate move?
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 08:11 PM
Feb 12

Seems like a logical evolution of military tactics to me. Your opponent’s defense is effective so you have to adapt.

Part of the rationale behind Russia’s military invasion of Ukraine was to upgrade their military capabilities by putting their military forces through real combat operations. The initial offensive was a disaster, but also a learning experience.

All the nations with significant military forces are observing the rapid evolution of drone and missile offensive and defensive systems. The Ukraine war is changing the battlefield.

Emrys

(7,242 posts)
4. The cost of the missile is reputed to be over $200 million
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 09:42 AM
Feb 13

Since it appears to have hit nothing of military consequence and apparently ended up in bits on a sidewalk, it looks like it was a very expensive dud.

The existence and capabilities of this missile have been the subject of much mystery, myth and debate since Russia first began boasting about it. It's intended as an anti-ship missile. It's primarily ship-launched, which raises the question of where its sea-based platform was. One possibility is that the Russians have developed the ability to convert it to ground-launched. Whatever, both options leave its launchers vulnerable to attack since they're unlikely to set off volleys of such an expensive bit of kit even if they have the stocks (which is highly unlikely given their problems with other homegrown weaponry). Its big selling point is supposed to be that its speed would render it invisible to detection, but it's "hypersonic", if at all, only during the higher stages of its trajectory and not in its terminal phase. Its accuracy is questionable, with one Russian naval officer (now dead from combat) describing it being hypothetically aimed at a tower block, and if it missed that one, no problem, it would hit the one behind it.

We've been through this before with the air-launched Kinzhal, which was similarly hyped until Patriot proved capable of taking it down.

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