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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:39 AM Dec 2014

The Bear's Lair: Oil free market is bad news for U.S.

For the record, I don't think anybody knows what the effect of the "free market" in oil is going to be, but I do think it is safe to say it will be very disruptive, good for some people, bad for others, and forcing us all to adapt.

However, once the oil price falls below $70, the economic ill-effects for the U.S. of being the world's high-cost oil producer kick in. Investment in the oil sector becomes hopelessly unprofitable, so a wave of bankruptcies must result. In the Austrian economic analysis, the U.S. and Canadian investment in fracking, tar sands and deep-sea drilling becomes "malinvestment" that must be liquidated. You can see the effect of this in the market's reaction late last month to the abolition of Seadrill's (NYSE:SDRL) dividend. The stock dropped 23% in one afternoon and has fallen a further 10% since. The energy sector now represents 15% of the U.S. junk bond market, a percentage that has doubled over the last few years. While some of that borrowing has gone to invest in refineries, which benefit from lower prices, and pipelines, which are close to neutral, any that has gone toward the production of oil or gas is likely to be very difficult to service.

There will be an important second-order effect on the U.S. economy from the energy price downturn. In the last few years, energy-intensive manufacturers have been encouraged to invest in the U.S. because of its relative cost advantage in energy. That has allowed manufacturers whose processes are intensive in energy and not especially in labor to make up for the U.S. labor-cost disadvantage, thus creating jobs that are relatively invulnerable to outsourcing to the Third World.

However, just as cheap money has reduced or even eliminated the U.S. advantage in the cost of capital, and encouraged the migration of U.S. jobs to emerging markets, so will the reduction or even elimination of the country’s energy-cost advantage bring a second wave of outsourcing to other countries of both capital investment and generally well-paid jobs. This is an effect entirely ignored by the simple first-order Keynesian models. But if oil prices remain below $70 a barrel there will be further unpleasant surprises for the U.S. workforce, which has already suffered so badly from U.S. economic mismanagement.

Energy-sector bankruptcies—many of which will result in production capacity being taken out of the market—and the accompanying outsourcing of energy-intensive manufacturing capacity are likely to cause damage that far outweighs any benefit from increased consumption. Capital destruction through bankruptcy reduces the wealth of society, which reduces the amount of capital available for each worker, That in turn reduces the long-term living standards of the workers themselves (and indeed their ability to consume). Additional consumption, much of which will be spent on imports, brings no benefit that is even close to the same level of importance.

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The Bear's Lair: Oil free market is bad news for U.S. (Original Post) bemildred Dec 2014 OP
Gee Old Codger Dec 2014 #1
This article focuses on oil and not natural gas. amandabeech Dec 2014 #2
I'm worried about deflation, economic contraction. bemildred Dec 2014 #3
Europe, Japan and China are all slowing down, which is part of the reason that oil has declined. amandabeech Dec 2014 #4
Yeah, now we're on the same page. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #5
Yes. Thanks for posting all these thought provoking articles! n/t amandabeech Dec 2014 #6
I enjoy our conversations too. bemildred Dec 2014 #7
Me too. amandabeech Dec 2014 #8
 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
1. Gee
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:07 AM
Dec 2014

That in turn reduces the long-term living standards of the workers themselves consume(and indeed their ability to consume ). Additional consumption, much of which will be spent on imports, brings no benefit that is even close to the same level of importance

No one seemed to be real concerned with that happening until it the big guys got hurt a little then all of the sudden the little guys are important.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
2. This article focuses on oil and not natural gas.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 06:49 PM
Dec 2014

The two products are not really fungible, and even more so because it is not difficult to ship oil by tanker across oceans, but it is difficult and expensive to do the same with natural gas. That means that the price of oil of similar properties does not vary too widely from place to place, but the price of natural varies significantly.

Right now, natural gas is very inexpensive here in the US as compared to, say, Japan and China, thanks to fracking and Canadian imports by pipeline. Those industries that use natural gas as a fuel source or feed stock or both will continue to find the US a good place to locate operations. That is particularly true for those industries that also require water, because some other areas of cheap natural gas, like the Middle East, are not blessed with a good supply of fresh water. And Russia, which has cheap gas and water, now does not present a stable business climate.

I agree with the article in that high cost oil fracking operations are likely to go belly up, and that oil dependent industries will have problems, I believe that those industries more dependent on natural gas will be much more stable.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. I'm worried about deflation, economic contraction.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 06:59 PM
Dec 2014

You are right about effects here, it should be like stepping on the gas economically, allowing for a certain amount of breakage from the loss of revenue in certain sectors. We are very large and very diversified.

But overseas it will get much messier.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
4. Europe, Japan and China are all slowing down, which is part of the reason that oil has declined.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:11 PM
Dec 2014

Have you noticed the anti-immigrant marches in Germany and Italy, and of course the recent successes of the UKIP and the National Front? I see them more as a sign of economic stress in the middle and working classes and less of an eruption of pure evil. I'm not sure that the European elites are going to handle things if the economic picture worsens substantially.

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